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The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

Started by syairchairun, November 09, 2014, 09:05:00 AM

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MileHigh

Quote from: T-1000 on December 24, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
In this thread the magnet and the coil are stationary!
The piece of material between is deviating magnetic flux strength between them.

So what?

Yes and the piece of material will require mechanical energy to make it move if you want to output power from the coil into a load.

Thought experiment:   You are blindfolded and the two wires from the coil are on your tongue.  Someone moves the magnet in front of the coil and you feel the voltage on your tongue.   Then, the magnet and the coil are stationary!  Someone moves a ferrite core between the magnet and the coil and you feel the voltage on your tongue.

Can you tell the difference?   The answer is that you cannot tell the difference

MileHigh

Quote from: T-1000 on December 24, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
Then show at least one experiment where coil and N-S magnets are stationary and the iron core is moving from the side and passing those magnets like in Syrain's design.

Look at the tongue experiment that I just described to you.

The only thing the coil cares about is seeing changing magnetic flux.  You can move the coil, move the magnet, or move the ferrite core, it makes no difference.

Dave45

This is the point of this build https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OSXbG2BmUw Thanks Jimboot.
When a magnet induces current in a coil the coils magnetic field opposes the magnet.
When iron is between the two at some point you get attraction which doesnt happen in a conventional generator.
So unless you have built it and know it doesnt work your talken trash.
Simple......................

T-1000

Quote from: MileHigh on December 24, 2014, 11:30:31 AM
So what?

Yes and the piece of material will require mechanical energy to make it move if you want to output power from the coil into a load.

Thought experiment:   You are blindfolded and the two wires from the coil are on your tongue.  Someone moves the magnet in front of the coil and you feel the voltage on your tongue.   Then, the magnet and the coil are stationary!  Someone moves a ferrite core between the magnet and the coil and you feel the voltage on your tongue.

Can you tell the difference?   The answer is that you cannot tell the difference.
In first post of this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqWU12Db_MY - the kinetic energy is created by motor which is powered by the same generator it is running.
And I know the difference how much energy is required to turn generator shaft and how much energy it creates. It requires less energy to power motor than generator is giving on output when the magnetic flux is alternated by passing core instead of moving magnet or coil.
Also I am not going to waste time for proving it to you, you got all information already for building it. The most annoying thing here is finding posts every morning in this thread what has nothing to do with Syrain's generator and concepts how to make replication of it...

Dave45

Im working on an alternator variant, need to order a pm for the alternator.
I figured this was the cheapest route to go since I have a few laying around.