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OverUnity Does Not Exist!

Started by Nink, November 28, 2014, 09:23:20 AM

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forest

Overunity is impossible , that's a fact . However this doesn't mean free energy is impossible, and it even doesn't mean free energy with amplification is impossible. You can test it yourself, but it's not recommended.... for example solar panel can be have rised power output if you use a lens to focus more sun rays on it.

Nink

Quote from: forest on November 29, 2014, 04:10:07 PM
Overunity is impossible , that's a fact . However this doesn't mean free energy is impossible, and it even doesn't mean free energy with amplification is impossible. You can test it yourself, but it's not recommended.... for example solar panel can be have rised power output if you use a lens to focus more sun rays on it.

Hi Forest

I am not sure i understand you definition of amplification or the correlation you have provided with the ability to increase the solar energy created through magnification.   Example if i took a magnifying  glass with circumference x and used this to concentrate solar rays onto a small solar cell i would generate y watts.  If i took a large solar cell of circumference x i would generate z watts. The larger solar cell would actually generate more energy than the smaller solar cell with a magnifying lens of the same circumference as we would obtain losses in the processes. So z>y 

I realize there is value in using low cost parabolic mirrors and water cooled solar cells due to the manufacturing costs of the cells but I don't  actually see any amplification of energy that occurred in your example. 

Pirate88179

Quote from: Nink on November 29, 2014, 10:04:37 PM
Hi Forest

I am not sure i understand you definition of amplification or the correlation you have provided with the ability to increase the solar energy created through magnification.   Example if i took a magnifying  glass with circumference x and used this to concentrate solar rays onto a small solar cell i would generate y watts.  If i took a large solar cell of circumference x i would generate z watts. The larger solar cell would actually generate more energy than the smaller solar cell with a magnifying lens of the same circumference as we would obtain losses in the processes. So z>y 

I realize there is value in using low cost parabolic mirrors and water cooled solar cells due to the manufacturing costs of the cells but I don't  actually see any amplification of energy that occurred in your example.

I agree as I have tried this.  A magnifying lens simply gathers available light and concentrates it into a smaller area.  Due to the losses associated with using a lens, you actually get a little less output while doing this.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
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hoptoad

Quote from: ramset on November 29, 2014, 10:34:59 AM
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Toad good to see you around


Likewise Chet ..... KneeDeep.


I never really left, but I'm just a silent observer for the most part, these days. Still, it's that time of year, and the pulse motor build offs, as always, attracts my attention. So I've been lurking in the pond a little more regularly lately, to see what goodies are up for display.


These pulse motor build offs are like my version of a Xmas party. I can't wait to see the variety of builds this year. With 3D printing taking off in a big way, I won't be surprised to see a few rigs hot off the printing press!


Cheers.

rods

I agree, Overunity is impossible, BUT, Mechanical advantage is easy.I have a lever inside a frame. The fulcrum is 2" from the end of the lever which is connected to a homebuilt crankshaft, on the crankshaft I have a 14" diameter 40lb flywheel. the total length of the lever is 50" This results in a mechanical of 25-1, what I need to do is attach a motor to the long end of the lever to keep it moving around 100 times per minute. Any ideas would be welcome, The intent is to belt drive a 40 kw generator from  the crankshaft.
Yes it will work. I can move the lever by hand to get 50 rpms on the crankshaft with only 1-2 lbs of pressure on the lever, also 5 lbs of lift on the lever generates over 100 lbs of torque on the end of the crankshaft.