Vaccinations; recent developments

[SeaMonkey]

sarkeizen,

Your 'demonstrable science' may be seriously
contaminated.

Not all within the Medical Community would
agree with you.

[SeaMonkey]

...
Adams does not address thimerosal toxicity.  He implies that thimerosal is nasty poison because a constituent material is mercury.  He is at best badly misinformed and at worst intentionally spreading misinformation that encourages people to make bad personal health decisions.

Americans are famous for their 'bad personal health
decisions.'  The American Diet chief among them.

Not content with hazarding the American People, we
export our Junk Food world wide.  All for the Love of
Money.

Some of the elements in their pure form are terribly
toxic.  Fortunately, in the cases you cited, those compounds
are when reasonably ingested beneficial to health.

Compounds of Mercury are a different animal,
however.

[SeaMonkey]

While this article has nothing directly to do with
vaccinations it does address toxicity and the
Food and Drug Administration.

The United States bureaucracy gets crazier by
the day...

[MarkE]

So the issue was whether Adams and his NN report was making a fair representation of the facts or not, with his provocatively titled article:  "Why flu shots are the greatest medical fraud in history" and we get:

Americans are famous for their 'bad personal health
decisions.'  The American Diet chief among them.

Not content with hazarding the American People, we
export our Junk Food world wide.  All for the Love of
Money.

I say you lost the thread there.

Some of the elements in their pure form are terribly
toxic.  Fortunately, in the cases you cited, those compounds
are when reasonably ingested beneficial to health.

So here you agree that compounds of elements can have completely different chemical and therefore biological effects than the elements alone.  Ergo Adams' failure to distinguish between elemental mercury and compounds of mercury undermines his claims.  Ergo Adams' failure to specifically address the compound of mercury used in about 1/3 of vaccine doses undermines his claims.  But then you launch off with this:

Compounds of Mercury are a different animal,
however.

Where is your evidence that all compounds of mercury in any amount cause physical harm?  This is above and beyond the fact unaddressed by Adams' that over two thirds of flu vaccination doses do not contain any mercury compounds at all.

[SeaMonkey]

So here you agree that compounds of elements can have completely different chemical and therefore biological effects than the elements alone.  Ergo Adams' failure to distinguish between elemental mercury and compounds of mercury undermines his claims.

Where is your evidence that all compounds of mercury in any amount cause physical harm?

This is an easy research project.  Nay, it is not
my evidence;  rather it is acknowledged scientific
truth regarding the toxicity of compounds of Mercury.

Even in High School Chemistry classes in the late
50s it was taught that elemental Mercury, the
metal, was relatively non-toxic and safe to deal
with at ordinary temperatures.  It becomes unsafe at
elevated temperatures where its vapor pressure becomes
substantial.  On the other hand, there are virtually no
compounds of Mercury which are non-toxic or safe to
ingest.  Mercury accumulates within the body in various
compound forms and gradually causes life hazarding
conditions to develop.  Lead Poisoning occurs in a similar
fashion.

Check it out.  Five minutes of research should verify the
nature of the problem with Mercury.

It would probably be very wise to steer clear of any government
propaganda which attempts to establish the opposite.

Perhaps the World's worst case of Mercury Poisonings
occurred in Japan.

Wikipedia article.