Vaccinations; recent developments

[orbut 3000]

@orbut 3000
Wow good answer in a really strange yet disconcerting way but I'm not sure I understand your point?. It's like trying to fit the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle in which all the pieces are the same color which doesn't actually form a picture at all. Why don't you tell us what's really o your mind, hmm?.


AC

Where did I lose you?.


ETA:  I think I posted this in the wrong thread, but:

The way forward is to find a balance between worst and perfect, between black and white. There is no chance to have perfect solution, but there is a good chance to steer our society around the most dangerous obstacles. 


But it does not help when the most idealistic and passionate just opt out and boycott the only process that is in place to influence and change things. There is no instant gratification in the democratic process, it takes time, patience and persistence. And that may be good, even, because it protects us a little bit from expressing the worst in us. And there is a lot of bad and ill inside us that wants to creep up and destroy our civilized communities by spreading hate, fear and rage. Almost all western democracies are designed to even out those flashes of rage.
An analogy:
The voting population is the weather and their will is slowly reflected in the climate that is the slowly changing actual policy.
Of course this system is not flawless.
Lobbyists and special interests can be a big problem. That's a field where pressure needs to applied.
Transparency is very important.

[sarkeizen]

I think we all can agree there is no going backwards be it cell phones, computers, computer displays, pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers

However it seems entirely plausible to have different phones, computers, etc..

or immunizations

Not that long ago you were arguing that generally those with low-IQ (as discovered by observation...somehow) get immunized.  Doesn't that mean you can go back?  At least the implication would be that the high-IQ folks have gone back.  People like SM and Capt-Z-ro at least appear to claim that there is almost no efficacy in vaccination (and you claim there is much higher risk in it).  So again it seems trivial to go back...unless vaccines actually DO work and they are very, very, very safe.  Let me know when you figure out what you're saying.

I mean no offense but everyone seems overly involved with debating a mute point and it seems there is no rational debate towards a real solution and I must ask what is it exactly that were debating?

Well given that SM, you and Capt-Z-ro can't really produce a point an defend it.  I'd say nothing.  It's more like watching you guys make strong assertions and then watch you act like having selective amnesia.

However, in most cases if you actually were somehow able to function in this way.  We would be debating if these things in fact cause the problems that people like you, SM and Capt-Z-ro claim.

[SeaMonkey]

A wee bit more food for thought:

[Pirate88179]

A wee bit more food for thought:

Where do you find this unsubstantiated crap?  Where is the study?  Who did the study?  Where are the references?

None?

We expect no less.

Bill

[SeaMonkey]

Where do you find this unsubstantiated crap?  Where is the study?  Who did the study?  Where are the references?

None?

We expect no less.

Those are the kinds of questions you would do well
asking your Physician, your Pharmacist, the
Pharmaceutical Industry and the CDC/FDA.

Very unfortunately for the health of the People,
much data put forth in published 'studies' is
pure fabrication.  Even the data that is valid is
very short term with no apparent concern for
possible long-term adverse effects.

Yes, we do need TRUTH.