Vaccinations; recent developments

[sarkeizen]

Oh my name calling already?

No, that's my measured opinion of your intellectual abilities.

I have been programming and interfacing,building control systems for computers since the first personal computers were invented

Then you can thank David Dunning and Justin Kruger for your marvelous insight into other fields.

Now let's ask an intelligent question

I'm pretty sure it's not nearly as intelligent as you think it is.

how do you think they get all the data and filter out data not relevant.

All the data for what exactly? in what situation?  Most of the time an application filters data based on simple criteria provided by the designer. The number of times someone writes an algorithm to do something like trending is actually, by comparison pretty small.

they use what's called data mining algorithms to sift through millions of files on the databases for relevant data.

"relevant" is the wrong word.  It's data that matches a pattern or heuristic.  This pattern has been coded or otherwise described to the machine.  For example "Folding@home" looks for molecules which match certain characteristics to label them as drug candidates for specific diseases.

As such it seems obvious a computer scientist would know how to find the most relevant meaningful data in the most efficient way

The CS person (or more frequently a grad student) codes a program to match a set of criteria.  However the set of criteria is provided by someone who actually knows the subject matter.

Uhm which part of this do you not understand because it seems pretty straightforward?

That's Dunning and Kruger talking.

You may be but unfortunately we cannot believe a word you say until we see your credentials, lol. As you have implied, until we have proof we will have to assume your just another crack-pot just like the people you have criticized.

There's some irony that you are so bad at this that you didn't realize that I actually took the persons credential at face value.  What I didn't accept is the doofus's (sorry I don't remember the posters name I only recall his stupidity) assertion that someone who has an irrelevant degree, almost no current published work in the field of medicine and zero published work on vaccine harm.  Would have anything useful to say about vaccine harm.

[sarkeizen]

Now who do you suppose wrote those programs?,

Often it's a collaborative effort between SME's and some code monkey.  However it's irrelevant to performing data analysis.  For example, many researchers and people like myself use R.  You could hire the greatest CS person in the universe and it would be trivial to give them R and a question about determining if correlation exists between a very complex set of inputs.  That they would be utterly and completely lost at.   Believe it or not, the volumes and volumes of books on statistical analysis are not entirely contained in the mind of most CS grads.  In fact statistics is such a devilish discipline that an awful lot of statisticians aren't that good.

Do you guys even know how computers actually work?

Only all too well.

[allcanadian]

@Sark

There's some irony that you are so bad at this

There lies the truth I believe as "this" has little to do with facts in my opinion but is a form of psychotic narcissistic behavior where people feel empowered by degrading and belittling others...not unlike racism. So I will leave you to "this" as I simply do not feel compelled to play your silly games. It is quite childish and pointless so I will leave you to it.


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[sarkeizen]

There lies the truth I believe as "this" has little to do with facts

You're right, in the sense that you have been asked many, many, many times to provide something resembling facts and all you have come up with is "it's my opinion".

a form of psychotic narcissistic behavior where people feel empowered by degrading and belittling others...not unlike racism.

You mean like thinking that because someone is a CS major they are the best at data analysis?

Dude, if I have offended you I sincerely apologize however your inability to disclose and clarify your opinion but constantly consider it superior to every contrary one (many times implying that you have better information) is the tone of someone pretty arrogant.  If you want to have a discussion come off your high horse and support your point or simply say that there's really no reason for what you believe.  That's cool too.

[Cap-Z-ro]

Good trolling...except for one or 2 minor details.

All this was done without ever having to disclose his study's, his peer reviewals and other "unvested" droolings, and trying to pass it off of evedence that injecting a witch's brew of chemicals were good for you.

Remember the names they had for native americans while they were about gifting them with blankets contaminated with small pox ?

The victims change, and the game remains the same.

Regards...