Vaccinations; recent developments

[Pirate88179]

So, are there really folks that believe that small pox, polio, and TB just stopped in society by accident?  Vaccinations had nothing to do with it?
Now, of course, some of these are making a comeback BUT, could that be that folks are entering this country by the droves have not had vaccinations?

I do believe that the shots have achieved much more good than the bad side effects, which, there are some.  It is a statistical choice.  Your kid has a 1 in 5 chance of dying from some horrible disease but, the shot to prevent it has only a 1 in 100,00,000.  This, of course, does not mean there is 0 risk...but...play the odds is what I say.

Bill

[sarkeizen]

The study indicated that the actual efficacy of the public administered flu vaccine was 3% tops.

So unless you are using the term "efficacy" in a way entirely different from the way researchers do.  This is very good evidence that whatever source you are relying on is entirely wrong.

Suffice it to say that vaccines which are 100% effective against all 'strains' of flu are capable of being produced.

Unlikely.  Information theory probably makes achieving that difficult.  That said there have been at least two articles about a "universal flu vaccine" in the past few days.  Which explains your incorporating this into your delusion.  This is based on the work of Miller published two years ago.   At least two phase II clinical trials for a broad antibody called CR8020 which is based on that work have happened in that time.  I haven't seen the results but even us lowly academics know:

a) This isn't a universal flu vaccine - at absolute best it's a universal Influenza A vaccine.
b) It's not even that, there are already (uncommon) viruses which are not affected like H7N9. 

So again your information sources are inferior to what is readily available from medical journals.  If you have the education to read them.   Which you don't.  

There are some members of the military who never get any illness.

Think, for once in your web-regurgitating-moronic life.  What would have to be true for that to be true.  See if you can figure out why that's stupid before I post back.  Ok?

[joel321]

So, are there really folks that believe that small pox, polio, and TB just stopped in society by accident?  Vaccinations had nothing to do with it?
Now, of course, some of these are making a comeback BUT, could that be that folks are entering this country by the droves have not had vaccinations?

That is really not that hard to understand! And it is true. You just JB weld some molecules here and there and they are squeaking and then you make a vaccine.

I do believe that the shots have achieved much more good than the bad side effects, which, there are some.  It is a statistical choice.  Your kid has a 1 in 5 chance of dying from some horrible disease but, the shot to prevent it has only a 1 in 100,00,000.  This, of course, does not mean there is 0 risk...but...play the odds is what I say.

This is your common IMMUNE SYSTEM at it's best!

There is no cure for anything only the IMMUNE SYSTEM learning to cope with the virus.

Take for example the flu virus, the vaccine does not "cure" it but only helps the immune system to deal with it. Don't we have the flu virus getting people sick every year?

The flu shot is only for the MOST SPREAD flu viruses and does not guarantee 100% you will not get the flu. And once the flu virus gets in your system, your body YMMUNE SYSTEM remembers their genetic code, IOW, you will always carry that virus in your body. If you go to a reservation where no one has being had the "immunity" that your body has, they would, you will get the sick and will kill their population!

We actually do benefit from vaccinations here and there but that does not mean that the dinosaurs where going to the clinic to get flu shots! Where the dinosaurs have live thousands of more years than we have. Have you seen the TV show "monsters inside me"? Do you believe that the dandruff fungus will ever get outside your body just by using "headndshoulders" shampoo? The fongus will live for the rest of your living life in your body and will "mutate" here and there which in return the "creators" of the shampoo will have to add that MUTATION to their shampoo for LIFE! Since the fongus never leaves your body!

The actual solution is not vaccines but EDUCATION! The same happens to our IMMUNE SYSTEM, it learns how to LIVE WITH THE VIRUS IN THE BODY! The flu virus that you had 10 years with you is still living in your body, the body has just been immune to it. That is all!

Even with out vaccinations, the body would soon learn to deal with it because humans are not the same as microbial viruses. Humans are actually are encoded in their genetic code to keep on living. And with out vaccinations, the body will soon learn to immune itself from the viruses since the viruses need the human to survive too!

But your simplistic mind cannot understand that!

You see this all over nature how things work. And if there was one virus that gets rid of the human body, I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A VIRUS GET RID OF A WHOLE MASSIVE POPULATION! And if that is even possible, that would only have to be in the low percentages! = they both depend on each other and they both need to keep each other in check!

How do you think the rest of the animals have survived for billions of years with out any vaccines? But I guess your brain cannot comprehend that far!

[Pirate88179]

That is really not that hard to understand!
The actual solution is not vaccines but EDUCATION!

Yes, I agree.  Please try to get some.

Bill

[Cap-Z-ro]

That is really not that hard to understand! And it is true. You just JB weld some molecules here and there and they are squeaking and then you make a vaccine.

Great line...post of the week material for sure.

Regards...