Vaccinations; recent developments

[SeaMonkey]

Miles Higher,

No, it is not a matter of 'hating' the political system;
like all systems it is capable of accomplishing either
good or bad for the people it purportedly 'serves.'

Even the people who acquire power and influence
within the system are not to be 'hated.'  In truth,
they cannot help that they are obsessed with Love
of Money and care not who they step on as they
'advance' in their chosen profession.

Here is a bit of insight into what the problem really
is.

Those who exhibit such unwholesome characteristics
are not to be 'hated' but rather, pitied.

[sarkeizen]

More about the Flu Shots 'not working.'

In what respect is this "more" than what has already been discussed?

[joel321]

More about the Flu Shots 'not working.'

Wow that is really eye opening. No matter what these non-educated people about vaccinations believe and say, the facts ARE IN! This is a new study just done recently not 10 yrs ago! I like to look at the dates as a matter of looking for outdated facts jan 15 2015.

I mostly like to take things apart and study them in a scientific way based on my past experiences but words can also be taken apart and be studied in a scientific way based on past experiences!

More than three-quarters of Americans who got this season's flu shot could get the virus anyway, given a mismatch between the flu strains covered by the shot and those actually causing illness in people, U.S. officials said.

More that 3 twenty five cents? This should not be very shocking considering how the flu virus works for those nerds.

An interim CDC report found the shot was only 23 percent effective overall, a performance about in line with what the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention predicted last year, experts said.

I'm sure these experts where not milehigh nor sarkeizen nor pirate which I'm kinda insulted by that since they seem to know the cure but do not make their own vaccines!! /sarcasm.

At the time, CDC warned that the predominant flu virus, influenza A (H3N2), had "drifted" or changed genetically since the shot was made.

I already mentioned this in my broken English. The "flu shot" is only a shot to help the immune system to help the body of ONLY the PREDOMINANT flu virus strand ONLY. The virus "genetically" changes so fast that this is what happens. Hence, the best course of action is EDUCATION rather that flu shots!!! plain and simple...immune shot engineers can only cure the flu virus one the patient is infected ONLY. Allegedly.

Effectiveness varies widely by age, working best in young, healthy people and least well in the elderly, a pattern reflected in the report released Thursday.

This is very obvious for many years in nature. One also needs to understand how vaccines work in the first place blah blah blah....solution EDUCATION to avoid it in the first place. Every year, they ONLY make vaccines after people get sick in the first place! Yara yara yara. Tell me of a vaccine they make before a number of people get sick....= " predominant flu"

It showed effectiveness against H3N2 viruses was highest - at 26 percent - among children aged 6 months to 17 years. It was roughly 12 percent effective in people 18-49 and 14 percent effective in those 50 and older, but those estimates were not statistically significant because there was too little data at this point in the flu season.

12% EFFECTIVE in people 18-49 lol. Not to mention the people that die from taking the flu shot....well, it comes to a point that your can see the smart intelligent more stupid than what they need to learn from mother nature.

I never take a flu shot because I always try to stay away from sick people. The times I get sick is when a stupid uneducated person coughs in my face while being sick or blocks his caugh with his palm and them shakes my hand. Stupidity kills more than EDUCATION. Though keeping people stupid makes the investors more money!!! blah blah blah. Everything is SOOO hard to figure out.

Right milehish, pirate, sarkeizen....

[sarkeizen]

Wow that is really eye opening. No matter what these non-educated people about vaccinations believe and say, the facts ARE IN! This is a new study just done recently not 10 yrs ago! I like to look at the dates as a matter of looking for outdated facts jan 15 2015.

I've already explained what can be wrong with these estimates.  Most cases are not subtyped.

I mostly like to take things apart and study them in a scientific way

No, that's more like the opposite of what you do.

I already mentioned this in my broken English.

I'm not sure why trolls want to act like they don't know English. 

12% EFFECTIVE in people 18-49 lol. Not to mention the people that die from taking the flu shot

What percentage is that again?

[MileHigh]

For starters, if this year's vaccine was not that effective because of virus mutation, it does not mean your flu shot is going to harm you.  For the vast majority of people the effect will be nothing.  However, you end up having more antibody combinations in your body.  I am no medical expert but perhaps a "stockpile" of antibodies could help you with _future_ variations on viruses?

This is a purely hypothetical example:  If I have a choice between a 20% chance of death and a 0.000003% chance of death I am going to go for the 0.000003% chance of death.  I am also conscious of the fact that there is no  practical way to prevent yourself from coming in contact with an invisible virus.  Of course you can take perfectly reasonable common sense precautions.  The problem is that when you go to the supermarket you actually have to touch things.  Ain't real life a bitch.  Or change your body condom on a regular basis.