Vaccinations; recent developments

[Cap-Z-ro]

It...sure...looks...like...somebody...else...is...pretending...to...have...me...on...ignore.

The other one has been spotted on numerous occasions in the vicinity of the hind quarters of the one getting paid for his time here.

--Just sayin'

Regards...

[SeaMonkey]

Sark,

"Establishment" is 60s jargon much used by the
infamous Hippies of Haight and Ashbury fame.

Anti-Establishment was the sought after status
amongst  those amazing youngsters of that era.

In today's lingo 'anti-establishment' would be
equivalent to 'conspiracy theorist.'

The 60s were GREAT.  Too bad you weren't there.

[sarkeizen]

"Establishment" is

...whatever goes against your pre-existing beliefs. Yeah I dig.

Kind of telling that you're not really interested in talking about what position has the best evidence. 

[SeaMonkey]

...
Kind of telling that you're not really interested in talking about what position has the best evidence. 

Fear not;  as you continue on into adulthood that
dilemma will be self-resolving.  Experience is one
helluva teacher.

Eat well, get plenty of sunshine, walk to and from
school and avoid vaccinations then you'll grow into
a strong and healthy specimen.

Oh yeah;  don't cheat.  Never permit others to bail
you out or otherwise deprive you of the full range
of experiential learning.  The 'school of hard knocks'
is the best.

AR

A more colorful accounting of Haight Ashbury.

[joel321]

I might be able to admit that if it was stated in English.  My knowledge of crazy-troll-speech-affectations is limited.

I don't even know what your "knowledge" about medicine is but you have to understand that dinosaurs have been living longer then us with out vaccinations?

And that the experience/education is more VALUABLE than ignorance.

Every vaccinations has a side effect! Because the "doctors" do not really know how sub-atomic viruses work. I don't know if you know this but the flu shot is just a semi-dead flu virus strand being injected in the body. Semi-dead means the human body will be able to detect it and since it's half dead, it is expected that the human immune system will have no trouble using it's defense cells to over take it, hence become IMMUNNE.  Regarding the nasal "flu shot", it is the same virus strand semi-dead but it is more alive than with the flu shot. That is because the nasal is more for healthy people. Blah blah blah.

Nothing is hard to understand once you do your search!

Now, we can understand:

1- the flu shot is protecting you from the PREDOMINANT flu virus strand ONLY.
2- the flu shot is just injecting you the VIRUS half dead to make it easier on the body to become IMMINUNE to it. Plus the shot has some enhancers for the immune system too...don't know what those enhancers are.
3- people who take the shot can still get sick BECAUSE the flu shot is only "protecting" you from the PREDOMINANT VIRUS. And if we look deeper, what some may call call predominant may not even be that predominant...yara yara yara.

The "vaccination" for the flu virus is EDUCATION! Since that is how EVOLUTION WORKS....where  EDUCATION is learning. All cells learn! Even your skin cells learn! The skin cells can repair themselves up to a limit and doctors know this. A simple paper cut will heal your skin with no stitches. And 2" cut is harder to heal but it will eventually as soon as it does not get infected. To prevent infection (we have viruses in our bodies 24/7) the faster one closes the door, the less chance of an infection...blah blah blah.

But I'm sure you already knew this?

Except that we already do educate people on limiting transmission.  However, even when people are very, very, very careful it still happens and it happens considerably less when we vaccinate.

Do you even meet people in real life?

The majority are soooo stupid and do not even understand how viruses get spread out! An STD can be transferred via a hand shake or via a toilet too.

In the USA, we have sick days that are like 3 per year, from my experience. That is so stupid because they only think about GREED.

Show me the statistics of how many people go to work sick and show me how many people that go to work sick CONTAMINATE OTHERS! You don't even think that far which really makes you sound like a not very intelligent person. Tell me how many people at work get others the flu virus? I know from watching with my own eyes, that GREED makes people go to work even if sick and the flu virus loves it because it gets spread around. Then the company owners bitch about why others that get infected get sick but their stupidity shows that they only think about money!

How have you educated people on limiting transmission? Are you living in a cave by yourself? Show the facts!

Again attempting to translate from crazy-troll.  If what you mean is that people normally or reflexively think in a manner comparable with rigorous science.  The answer is absolutely not.  People have all sorts of biases that science simply can not have.  There have been all sorts of studies done on people's cognitive biases.

I would never disagree with a righteous person! But you have to see all the suffering first to see the real truth. You seem to not being taking in consideration all the suffering around the world?

And science has no BIAS....lol, I'm 100% sure that I can study and learn what you have studied and surpass you because it's all a matter of learning. Is not like what you have learned some one else cannot learn!

The IMPORTANT part is that some people see the future. And look at things from different angles. YOU seem to believe that you are some type of "special" person that I'm wrong and you are always 100% correct...you keep on calling me a troll which obviously i'm not trolling here but DEBATING only!

...and the number of people who die from influenza...

Oh dear, I'm sure it's in the thousandths. Well, let me see, mostly from the weak immune system disorders and from the elderly?

But i'm pretty sure you are not even thinking from a 360* angle.