Vaccinations; recent developments

[Cap-Z-ro]

It is truly sad that you are suffering so and of course any
who have compassion and empathy wish you well and
hope that you will in time overcome.

Is your suffering in any way related to your dismal performance
in this present discussion?  Are you distraught on account of
your seeming inability to garner support for your AGENDA?

He may be frustrated and down to clinging to a repetitive off topic non issue...but he get paid nonetheless.

Whatever you do, don't start pressuring him to produce the unbiased data demonstrating the safety and effectiveness of injecting chemicals into the bloodstream of organic electric creatures, or he will put you on ignore like he and his arse kisser, the butt pirate did when I exposed them as the shill and his trusty dim witted lap dog.

He much prefers trying and convince you that the onus is on you to prove that chemical cocktails are not good for you.

Regards...

[joel321]

Where your problems sound increasingly made up.

All through out the world businesses loose millions of dollars from lack of communication! I'm actually feeling guilty because I thought you knew these facts!

This is 100% facts! In the USA businesses loose millions of dollars due to not being able to communicate while speaking English!

Those poetic people take a lot of stuff out of context! It is facts! I'm not making this up.

You did bring up 23 different topics which you then blamed on me and then used to claim I had ADD.  Which disparaged ADD sufferers by using their disease as a way to put someone down.  So if you NEVER get distracted then the 23 topics were entirely on topic and my responses were of course on topic and you had no reason to pretend that I have ADD.

But you still need to apologize to ADD sufferers.

hmmmmmm...the only blame I give you is that you are not able to see from all angles! That is all the blame I give you.

I'm just trying to seek truth for humanity! And you are just trying to seek truth for yourself!

I don't even know who told you that ADD is a disease?

I'm very certain that 80% of the people have it DUE TO TV. And i'm certain that most will get a pill prescription from having it = more confusion!

I don't feel the need to APOLOZIGE to anyone when i'm telling them how they get ADD in the first place, in FACT, I should be thanked! I/we can do some tests but I'm not getting payed to do tests, I work 40 hours a week regarding other things. And I have personal MONETARY issues I need to work on myself. But I see where ADD comes from, as bright as a sunny day!

The problem is convincing the masses!

The problem is that I was born genetically to see these things. I never wished to be this way when I was born!

ADD is not GENETIC or A VIRUS! ADD is MADE!

The cure is there but how can you stop smoking when they sell cigarettes all over the place? Think about that for a second.

Our brains allow us to perceive experiences.  However only abstract concepts like rationality, logic and math actually let us do science.

You don't even understand where ADD or where viruses come from and you say this? I cannot take you seriously at all sir. Now you are trying to tell me that you know are an expert about the mind or psychology?

Stick with your EXPERTISE. Which to be honest, I'm not impress!

To try to correct your mistakes for your edification, the edification of others and my immense amusement because talking to you SeaMonkey, realstupidcanandian makes for interesting stories to tell people.

Well there you go, you are an azz kisser. This has been proven for millions of years. Your mentality is not nikola, tesla, your mentality is that you can't wait to tell your "buddies" how stupid I am? Which really says it all. Another pirate person you are lol....sorry to laugh but there are greater mind then yours.

I can picture nikola tesla, "yeah, i'm only discovering mother natures powers so I can make fun of it!"

You think ME joel321 is Seamonkey? I don't even know who he/she is! I don't even care if I get "supported" emotionally by others!

So you fail regarding that! I'm joel321 a latino living in the USA.

What I said was there have been studies of airborne viruses that show that coughing in an area allows for infection in that area.  Again your idea that if someone points their face toward the ground then all the majority of viruses are flung to the ground is based on a flawed "mental science" process.  Viruses are exceptionally small and light.

HUH! Seriously guy, the more you speak, the more you show your intelligence. How more simplistic can you get if one person gets sick with an airborne virus. NOT COUGHING TOWARDS THE OTHER PERSON 80% WILL NOT GET INFECTED! What are you even saying!?

Man! Your mind is not connecting all the dots!

Then look it up or I'm not here to do your homewo rk for you.  You are expected to do some work.

ok, how would I know that I don't speak math language, brasil language, Chinese language, medical language, WEP wifi language, WAP2 wifi language, etc if I didn't know what language I speak?

I'm sorry but you are not speaking intelligence language at all!

Tell me what is a science language?

Arbitrarily stupid standard of evidence.  In any sufficiently complex language structure you could claim that people do not have 100% confidence.  However if in your "language of the deliberately stupid" you mean "Do you have a good understanding of legal terms and language" then the answer is yes.  A portion of my job involves reading contracts.

hmmm...do you understand 100% what the contracts mean?

Even if they are in your native language?

No you are completely definitely absolutely not using "everyday English". You would rarely,in English say "A virus is born" so by definition it is not "everyday language".  You are using the "language of the deliberately stupid" which is what I'll call this from now.   

I want to believe that I'm stupid! In fact sometimes I want to be stupid to experience "ignorance is bliss". I call myself above average intelligence because I get tired of being called INTELLIGENT when I don't even fell INTELLIGENT. So my ONLY conclusion is that the people that call me intelligent are more stupid than I am. I don't feel intelligent at all I just see them as lower than average. And then I ask myself why am I being called INTELLIGENT or STUPID! Then I see how socialism works! Where their social CIRCLE the ALPHA male tells them that they are intelligent!

Blah blah blah, just because a stupid person tells me that i'm intelligent ONLY means that his stupidity is showing. Since to understand that you also have to understand how ALPHA males work.

Yara yara yara, at any rate, I am 80% sure that I can beat you regarding brain intelligence! I'm very confident regarding this!

How do you know i'm not using every day language?

Maybe because everyday language you are only judging from your LITTLE BUBBLE?

If you knew those terms and knew them so well that you knew they are synonymous with what you tried to express with "born" why did you fight so hard to use born?  Why did you use stupid analogies that had to do with vaginas and ovaries?  See as someone who spends a lot of time around people who don't speak English very well.  This sounds like you were faking.

Here we go again. REPRODUCING is not the same as BORN. REPLICATE is not the same as BORN!  BORN! Comes first since reproducing is the mere fact of having ! The urge to REPLICATE!

A female and a male REPRODUCE! SO! Reproducing does not explain BEING BORN! Only how the sperm travels into the ovaries and etc etc etc...

DO you understand what is a root?

Reproduce! Or Replicate! Is not the root!!!!! get it?

Viruses reproduce by using cells there are somewhere between 7 and 12 mechanisms that we know of depending on how we are counting.

Ok, I learned a lot from you this day. Lol

I don't answer "born" questions.  Please rephrase.

LOL, and I thought I was talking to an "expert". Lol your ignorance, sorry, is showing little by little.

Poorly phrased.  A virus is not a disease.  You have probably a number of samples of plant and animal viruses in your body right now.  They aren't replicating so they aren't a problem.  "Can't" presupposes some medical knowledge that we don't have.

OHHH! That explains why we have cure the flu virus! Since that is what I asked and I got this! ok. Lol

..but you introduced 23 different topics.

The way I see it is that i'm looking at things from 23 different angles and you are only looking at it from ONE angle.

That is neither the colloquial or clinical definition of the term "disease".  ADD is a disease in English.

Who cares what colloquial or clinical definition, I only care what CAUSES IT!!!!

Tell me what causes ADD and tell me why there is a pill for it? TODAY!

Absolutely no evidence for that belief and considerable evidence against it.  Epidemiology for ADD does not increase commensurately with television use.  TV's per capita peaked somewhere in the 1980's in the US however the DSMIV ADD peaked in 2000.

Well I cannot never proof my point because I cant never get rid of commercials. But i'm 100% that is the cause!

You just have no brain matter to think farther than your nose! But maybe if I care so much for the public I need your fighting spirit to convince the rest!

Are you really more ignorant than I am?

Do you not understand how commercials use repetition to ENGRAVE a mental picture to those donkeis chasing a carrot? In fact, commercials are a way of putting a carrot in front of a donkey to make it chase it!

How do you know you are not chasing a carrot donkey? Lol

Also as I don't watch TV or radio with commericals this wouldn't apply to me.  Again your thinking is more like 5 degrees rather than 360.

ohhh ok, you always give half ass answers. This does not mean anything since advertising is true 100% to all people. What you imply is merely that you are somewhat educated to avoid ads. But the fact is that ads are all over the place – movies, magazines, tools, tv, cars, shoes, computers, etc etc etc.

I think you need to look up what a "goal" is.  "know what causes" is the wrong phrase.  More accurately we don't know enough of the risk factors to be able to predict nor do we know enough about the mechanism to interfere with it's development.

Who's "we"?

Are you trying to speak for everyone else?

When you say "we" do you mean that others can't understand your stupidity? Lol

Primarily genetics but it's plausible that there's an series of environmental factors.

lol this is so bland and sorry pathetic explanation of = I don't know!

In all honesty, you get confused easy. You drift from the MAIN POINT so far that you seem like you have the mentality of a girl.

You just have no mental power to even think outside your EGO.

Taking about what I mean by "born".

ADD is a decease!

Coughing to a persons face while having the flu helps better than coughing to the ground!

If I get the flu virus I will never get the flu virus in my whole life!

I'm not an expert in medicine yet I speak like I am!

I get distracted easy because of ADD and forget easy what the main point is!

Maybe you need a reality check or maybe you need to change your mentality and help others with your stubbornness!

[Pirate88179]

I guess Joel will never admit he was wrong about the show Moonshiners.

He claimed it was 100% real, I proved that it is a docudrama and not real.  It is indeed off-topic but He brought it up in one of his nonsensical rants.  Maybe one day he will be right about something?

Bill

[Cap-Z-ro]

I guess Joel will never admit he was wrong about the show Moonshiners.

He claimed it was 100% real, I proved that it is a docudrama and not real.  It is indeed off-topic but He brought it up in one of his nonsensical rants.  Maybe one day he will be right about something?

Bill

So, the imbecilic arse kisser drones on about it some more.

Regards...

[sarkeizen]

All through out the world businesses loose millions of dollars from lack of communication!

You're changing the subject again (#24).  What I was saying is that given that most of my family are not native English speakers and many of the people in my workplace aren't native speakers and that I've traveled a fair bit and that I've studied linguistics.  Your particular problems with English seem to be affectations.

This is 100% facts!

Yawn.

.the only blame I give you is that you are not able to see from all angles!

Wrong. You clearly said that I was changing the subject and because of that you deluded yourself into thinking I have ADD (which I'm going to use the more modern name ADHD from now on). 

And you are just trying to seek truth for yourself!

I'm sure humanity will benefit.  For example you are very amusing to talk to.  That benefits humanity - it makes them happy.  With a success rate much higher than you have had at curing ADHD.  So apparently I'm winning at benefiting humanity through this conversation.

I don't even know who told you that ADD is a disease?

It fits with the clinical definiton and at least one colloquial definition.  It is generally called a disease by doctors and it is classified by the DSMIV.   Sorry your permission is not necessary.

I'm very certain

A good sign that you are stupid.

80% of the people have it DUE TO TV.

Again the evidence says: "No".  If what you assume is correct the expectation you would see a correlation between TVs per capita and ADHD diagnosis.  No such correlation exists.  So the correct thing to do is to treat your hypothesis as if it is stupid.

And i'm certain

Good sign that you're stupid.

that most will get a pill prescription from having it = more confusion!

The first line treatment for ADHD is psychosocial counselling   When that fails or in extreme cases pharmacological measures are attempted.  There are two major classes of drugs and the most common one is stimulants.  Which helps in ~70% of cases.

I don't feel the need to APOLOZIGE to anyone when i'm telling them how they get ADD in the first place, in FACT, I should be thanked!

So here is where you should just stand up and say: "Ok I give, I'm just trolling" because it's exceptionally hard to believe a person would be as thick as you are being.  In the off chance you're serious it's worth mentioning that the reason you should apologize is because you are making light of people who suffer from a real disease.

But I see where ADD comes from, as bright as a sunny day!

Another good reason to think you're stupid.

The problem is that I was born genetically to see these things.

And another...

I never wished to be this way when I was born!

Trust me, very few wish you to be the way you are.

ADD is MADE!

The evidence says "no".

The cure is there but how can you stop smoking when they sell cigarettes all over the place?

I have no trouble not watching commercial tv or listening to commercial radio.  If you're still on that this is caused by TV/radio commercials.  Perhaps you're just not very smart?

Now you are trying to tell me that you know are an expert about the mind or psychology?

No, just in hypothesis testing and math.  Two things it's very difficult to do science without.

Well there you go, you are an azz kisser.

Either you didn't understand what I wrote or you don't understand what that idiom means.  Let me know which one it is.

Your mentality is not nikola, tesla

Yes.  In particular I don't believe a number of the incredibly stupid things he believed (or appeared to believe).

you can't wait to tell your "buddies" how stupid I am?

Think for once in your virtually useless life.   You can't stay on one topic, you have no idea how to phrase and support an argument, you use terribly ambiguous phrasing and you absolutely refuse to change how you say things or do the tiniest amount of work to phrase things better.  What's left but to make fun of you?

there are greater mind then yours.

Absolutely however you're simply not one of those greater minds.

You think ME joel321 is Seamonkey?

I didn't say that but now that you bring it up it's not entirely unplausible.

I'm joel321 a latino living in the USA.

... with ridiculous English affectations.

NOT COUGHING TOWARDS THE OTHER PERSON 80% WILL NOT GET INFECTED!

Yawn change of subject #25.  Now all of a sudden we are talking ONLY AND EVER about coughing directly on someone? LOL

ok, how would I know that I don't speak math language

Your change of subject aside (#26) what I was saying is entirely different.  You are responsible to research your position to the point that you can participate in a discussion.  So far you are not only not there but you also actively resist using terms properly.

Tell me what is a science language?

Change of subject #27.

hmmm...do you understand 100% what the contracts mean?

Logical fallacy.  I've already beaten that argument if you understood what I wrote.

I want to believe that I'm stupid!

Not enough to actually realize that you are.

I get tired of being called INTELLIGENT when I don't even fell INTELLIGENT.

Then you should pay attention to the people who are calling you stupid as they apparently know you better than the people who think you are smart.

So my ONLY conclusion is that the people that call me intelligent are more stupid than I am. I don't feel intelligent at all I just see them as lower than average. And then I ask myself why am I being called INTELLIGENT or STUPID! Then I see how socialism works! Where their social CIRCLE the ALPHA male tells them that they are intelligent!

Blah blah blah, just because a stupid person tells me that i'm intelligent ONLY means that his stupidity is showing. Since to understand that you also have to understand how ALPHA males work.

Change of subject #28.

I am 80% sure that I can beat you regarding brain intelligence!

Any intellectual contest?  Sure, I'll pick some so we can all watch you make excuses as to why you won't do it.

I'm very confident regarding this!

Another reason why you're probably stupid.

How do you know i'm not using every day language?

The same way people who write dictionaries know usage frequency.  By statistical analysis.

Maybe because everyday language you are only judging from your LITTLE BUBBLE?

Nope.  Think again Hammurabi. 

Here we go again. REPRODUCING is not the same as BORN.

Sure but every time someone is born someone has reproduced.  Which means your term "born" is ambiguous and you should probably pick another one.

REPLICATE is not the same as BORN!

Exactly viruses replicated but few would say they are "born".  You make a good argument that "born" is ambiguous and you should pick another term.

BORN! Comes first since reproducing is the mere fact of having ! The urge to REPLICATE!

LOL So wait before you said being born meant coming out of my mothers vagina.  Now you say I was born before then.  That I was born before I was born.  Again this is you making an excellent argument that your use of "born" is ambiguous and you should choose another term.

A female and a male REPRODUCE!

which means their child was born.  Hence, again a great argument that "born" should be swapped for another word.

DO you understand what is a root?

The root of what?

Reproduce! Or Replicate! Is not the root!!!!! get it?

How about you read a book or a web page about virology and look up some of those words.  Then perhaps you will know what you mean.

Ok, I learned a lot from you this day.

It was statistically inevitable that at some point in your life you would learn something from someone else.  Just not likely on an individual case.

and I thought I was talking to an "expert".

I've already implied that I'm not an expert in Troll English Affectations.

That explains why we have cure the flu virus!

Are you trying to say that we don't have a method of prevention or treatment which works on all variations on the influenza genome?

The way I see it is that i'm looking at things from 23 different angles

In which case you shouldn't blame me for the 23 changes in subject and therefore there is no reason to claim that I have ADHD.

you are only looking at it from ONE angle.

Clearly if I'm responding to all 28 of your changes to the subject then I'm looking at as many aspects as you are.  However I just happen to know that most of what you're talking about is bullshit.

Who cares what colloquial or clinical definition

You do.  You said it wasn't a disease however it fits both the colloquial and clinical definitions.

I only care what CAUSS IT!!!!

No you only appear to care about validating your exceptionally stupid ideas about what causes it.  There's a big difference there.

Tell me what causes ADD and tell me why there is a pill for it? TODAY!

ADHD is a large collection of symptoms which may not even have a common cause.  However again twin studies have shown something like 70% correspondence.  As I said earlier psychosocial therapy is the first line in most north american countries.  Stimulants are one of the most common pharmacological treatments.   The reason why?  It improves outcomes in something like 70% of cases.

Well I cannot never proof my point because I cant never get rid of commercials.

You probably don't know enough math to understand how that means you're more wrong than right...

But i'm 100% that is the cause!

So you have never cured anyone but you are still 100% convinced.  Another reason you're stupid.

you always give half ass answers. This does not mean anything since advertising is true 100% to all people. What you imply is merely that you are somewhat educated to avoid ads. But the fact is that ads are all over the place – movies, magazines, tools, tv, cars, shoes, computers, etc etc etc.

I rarely watch movies with commercials and I don't read magazines and I use an ad blocker on my computer.  So while I do see commercials from time to time my exposure is so much lower than the vast majority of society that you have proved yourself wrong.  The only way for me to have ADHD as a result of exposure to commercials their effect would have to be immensely strong.  Which would mean everyone would have ADHD - however they don't.

You killed your own argument because you like your own ideas too much.

Who's "we"?

Medical opinion as seen through the lens of my reading of medical journals.

lol this is so bland and sorry pathetic explanation of = I don't know!

Nope.  What I'm saying is that many twin studies not only show a strong correlation between identical twins and autism diagnosis but there is also a strong proportionality between fraternal twins.  Both of those make a good case for autism to have a strong genetic component. 

In all honesty, you get confused easy. You drift from the MAIN POINT so far that you seem like you have the mentality of a girl.

You just have no mental power to even think outside your EGO.

Taking about what I mean by "born".

ADD is a decease!

Coughing to a persons face while having the flu helps better than coughing to the ground!

If I get the flu virus I will never get the flu virus in my whole life!

I'm not an expert in medicine yet I speak like I am!

I get distracted easy because of ADD and forget easy what the main point is!

Maybe you need a reality check or maybe you need to change your mentality and help others with your stubbornness!

I'm not sure if these are all changes of subject or you just not reading what I wrote. You figure out what you are actually saying and let me know.