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Vaccinations; recent developments

Started by SeaMonkey, December 01, 2014, 02:12:40 PM

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joel321

QuoteI have responded clearly to everything you've posted.

Clearly in your dementia mind! Lol

QuoteIf there's a problem the topic shifting it's because you keep changing it.  I've even shown you where you do this. 

Ok, do you have OCD?

Do you have ADD?

How much do you weigh?

How tall are you?

How many vaccinations have you had in your entire life?

How do you avoid the HIV virus?

How do you make money?

QuoteWhats that?

chop – (chopping) cut (something) into small pieces with repeated sharp blows using an ax or knife.

How stupid do you have to be to not imply that you cut my paragraphs with your tongue knife? This is 100% facts, you have no argument what so ever 100% facts!

You want me to tell you what CHOPPING means? What a waste of time here and shows the brain capabilities of the asking person!

QuoteYou might have something resembling a point but you keep flailing about on different topics and when it's shown to you that you are changing subject you pretend that this was all part of your made-up main point.

My points are still the same from the beginning, the only thing that you don't understand is that I"M LOOKING AT THINGS FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES!

My main points are the same! I'm just here trying to be enlighten from what I can see. To maybe help your dad, mom, sister, brother, son, daughter, since all humans  only VALUE their close ones and treat the others like chopped liver. This is facts!

QuoteSimple, a lot of things you post are incredibly stupid and I think it's fun and educational to correct you and make you look silly.

Is that really the ULTIMATE GOAL?

How have you corrected me in any way?

QuoteThere's probably a level of diminishing returns.

What are those "diminishing" returns? That are PROBABLE! Lol

QuoteTo start: I listen to what he is saying then I correct the things that are wrong and explain why.

How healthy is your family?

Do you 100% understand and believe all of them will live to be 100 years old?

QuoteNo, we are talking about your claim that ANYTHING I can do you can do better.

LOL really! I will never beat you at being better at sucking! I don't aim for that.

QuoteI told you it was a game

We are not playing games, we are talking about people that die due to negligence! I honestly thought you were going to show me the 100% cure for something regarding vaccinations or medicine but then you gave me that 18x18 game board link! Your genetic code will not get that far to be honest 100% lol.

QuoteApparently all you did was look at a picture.

How am I wrong when I counted 18x18 squares when the instructions say 19x19 squares.

If we play on points well who cares if we play on 40x40 squares but it just needs to be CONSITENT!

What is the meanings of 19x19 points VS 500x500 points?

QuoteYOU are the one who claimed that ANYTHING I could do you could do better especially if it was intellectual.  I'm more than comfortable saying that many fifteen year olds can beat me at BF4

I'm more than confident that I can beat any 15 year old in BF4 while you are afraid of them!

When have you seen a 15 year old president?

You are sooo stupid. Aging may reduce body REACTION but it fuels the neurons. = a 15 yr old will never beat a 50 yr old. If a 15 yr old beats a 50 yr old, then the 50 yr old WILL be fresh meat to another 50 yr old.

Besides that, I'm not here trying to beat you at anything! Thats not my goal! I only CARE ABOUT TRUTH! = the ultimate! If I have to beat you, so be it....so far you are not that challenging! You seem to me more little a chihuahua dog trying to bite TO BE HONEST!

QuoteI asked you if a game was ok and you said yes.  So it seems you are dumber than usual today.

My mistake was that I ASSUMED WE WHERE TALKING ABOUT MEDICINAL "GAMES". So I guess we can start the game all over now that 100% it is clarified!

Give me a game regarding vaccination or medical stuff?

I'LL STILL PLAY! I'M NOT INTIMIDATED BY YOUR BRAIN POTENTIAL AT ALL! REGARDING VACCINATIONS OR MEDICINE!

allcanadian

@Mag
QuoteMerck vaccine scientist threatened with jail time for trying to expose
massive vaccine data manipulation and fraudLearn more:  http://www.naturalnews.com/048483_vaccine_research_scientific_fraud_Merck.html#ixzz3QeqeWzk7
Fraud would seem to be rampant in this industry.
AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

sarkeizen

Quote from: SeaMonkey on February 03, 2015, 01:26:24 AM
Now, about your fortuitous claim:  ADD and ADHD are non-existent fabricated 'conditions' which have been created by those who are addicted to the Love of Money.  Love of Money.
Make sure you say "greed" or "love of money" a few more times in your next post because you may not make your point clear. :)

Your conclusions are of course understood but really pretty irrelevant to the discussion.  What I first asked was: Do people with no other medical diagnosis but with a real medical problem go into a doctors office and get a diagnosis of ADHD.   What I asked next was:  Do you think this is the case with most people who have a diagnosis of ADHD.

I mean clearly people get diagnosed with ADHD and clearly they are in a doctors office for some reason when they do.  I'm just asking how you think they go from walking in to diagnosis?  You can say "greed" or "it's not a real condition" as much as you want but they are just empty words unless you can tell me what's going on. 

Unless that's all you have...empty words?

sarkeizen

You think it's guaranteed that McQuestion died after the flu shot.  However it's likely that she died months after the flu shot.  People in health care are usually required to get the shot as early as possible.  I'm often on the priority list for vaccinations so I speak with some confidence about this.  Even during H1N1 there was some vaccine rationing in places.  The health care workers got served first.  Same with Tamiflu.

So with regard to the flu shot being causative.  It's probably as close to impossible as you can get.  All sources report that COD was sepsis.  Sepsis is the response to an infection it's almost impossible to get influenza from an inactivated vaccine.   However there are plenty of cases showing people with the flu getting sepsis.  So your theory is less likely that what is getting reported.  Your theory also requires that there was an allergic reaction.  Allergic reactions look nothing like sepsis.  So it's even less likely.  Furthermore you haven't explained what was she allergic to?  A vaccine is primarily a suspension, preservatives, adjuvant, virus and some trace amounts of the culture medium.  Everything but the culture medium and the virus are used in many other foods and medicines.  If these were an allergen then there would be a enormous problem.  The adjuvants are used in more limited respect.   However if there were serious allergies to adjuvants to the levels in vaccines. We would see people dying everywhere.  Which leaves the virus and the culture.  In fact we know that some people who are allergic to eggs will have an allergic reaction to vaccines cultured in eggs.  This is why people get asked.  Which only leaves the virus - but if you're allergic to that the flu would kill you anyway.

So your idea that there is some secret allergy which presents just like sepsis but it so some other ingredient in vaccines is now even less likely...add to that the fact that in all likelihood she had a vaccine a while before dying.  Your ideas are simply and completely inferior to mine.

As for which strain killed her and why are there no other deaths?  The likely suspect is the serotype H3N2 but I doubt they do typing for this kind of thing and in case you haven't been reading reports it is killing other people.

The idea that vaccinations make the flu stronger is pretty uninformed.  If that were true we would see an increase in flu mortality over the past few decades.  Instead we see a flat trend with peaks and valleys.  What makes a new strain of virus is a change in replication.  A new strain isn't necessarily stronger but it does have a chance of not being covered by the vaccine. 

With respect to diminishing returns.  Every vaccination makes further infection more difficult by some likelihood.  There will come a point at which the positive predictive value of infection is not significantly lowered by vaccinating further or even that the cost of vaccinating further doesn't reduce the costs of additional care required for disease victims.  That's what "diminishing returns" means.

I have no idea why you accepted an invitation to play an intellectual game and are now making excuses but the offer still stands. 

If you accept then go ahead and create your kiseido account and report back here and we can arrange a time to play a few games. :)


Magluvin

Quote from: allcanadian on February 03, 2015, 03:43:51 AM
@MagFraud would seem to be rampant in this industry.
AC

Fraud? More like 'agenda'.  ;)   Agenda 21

Mags