Vaccinations; recent developments

[sarkeizen]

Eight invented 'diseases' Big Pharma is banking on.

MMR vaccine may cause cancer and mutate DNA.

Again, can you point to strong evidence anywhere here?  Please do.  Say: "This here is very strong evidence of X".  Because your lack of doing that is kind of strong evidence that you're just interested in creating mindless drones.

[SeaMonkey]

Those who wish to become much better informed
regarding vaccines, their effects, their ingredients
and more will find many links here.

[joel321]

Research actually requires more than just assertions.  That could be entitled 50 stupid things anti-vaccine people say and you wouldn't have to change a word.

First of all I'm not an anti-vaccine person. I'm not anti-anything. I'm just pro-truth.

The truth about vaccinations are manly just due to making money MOSTLY. I mean think about it for a minute. Someone got the measles virus and now all of the pro-vaccine are FREAKING out. They don't want to get their kids sick and this is how the government takes the opportunity to NEFORCE their AGENDA. Which they say it should be mandatory! Correct! "too protect the people". Which it shows time after time that don't don't want to protect the people, they just want to make money.

Ok. so you believe that everyone should be vaccinated. Great no problem. But it does not make sense and it's pretty obvious.

1- The measles virus is very very rare. NOT because the vaccine is helping the immune system to help it fighting but BECAUSE IS JUST NOT HERE ANYMORE. Period.

2- There are wayyy worse more viruses to worry about that the measles. And not just viruses. I already mentioned that the mosquito is the deadliest animal in the USA. In another place I will assume that the mosquito is deadly too but in a location where there are hippos, I'm sure the hippo kills a lot of people more than the flu virus. The same can be said where the deadliest snake lives. There will be more deaths regarding the snake than that person being killed by an automobile hitting a deer that is crossing the road.

So vaccinations are being pushed right now because everyone is getting scared of the measles WTF? The only RATIONAL MANDATORY should be to the families/relatives of the person that has the virus NOT WORLD WIDE. That is stupid.

Again, the usual offer is open.  If there is one or two things in that article which you consider strong evidence of harm or lack of efficacy.  Then please point out the specific point and I'll address it.  Be prepared to answer WHY you think it's strong evidence though.

Well, in all honesty, there are a lot but lets discuss this article.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/measles-vaccines-kill-more-people-than-measles-cdc-data-proves/5429736

Give me your OPINIONS or facts as to that not being true?

This is something most of you won't do.  Perhaps because none of you know how weighing evidence is a science - which is why you have to ridiculous beliefs that you do.

Is not like what you know I can't understand lol. I know a lot of things you don't know. e.g. how to repair an HVAC system? That does not mean that you CAN"T learn it. It just takes time. SO what you know right now does not mean that i'm STUPID lol, it just means that I just HAVE NOT LEARNED IT YET! 

[sarkeizen]

First of all I'm not an anti-vaccine person. I'm not anti-anything.

I didn't say you were.  I just said that article could be entitled "50 stupid things anti-vaccine people say" and be no less accurately titled.

I'm just pro-truth.

Not in any useful sense of the term.  You are pro-joels-particularly-ignorant-beliefs.

Someone got the measles virus and now all of the pro-vaccine are FREAKING out.

102 people actually.  In about 30 days in the US.  That's more that we would usually get all year when 90% of the population was vaccinated.

1- The measles virus is very very rare. NOT because the vaccine is helping the immune system to help it fighting but BECAUSE IS JUST NOT HERE ANYMORE. Period.

That is one of the most exceptionally stupid things you've said...and you've raised the bar pretty high there at times.
Joel the moron says: "The measels is not here" - prior to 2004 that would be more correct the US got approximately 100 cases per year.  Since then the size of outbreaks has been rising.  Last year we had over 600 cases and the year before that we had 200.
Joel the moron says: "Not because of vaccines" - actually yeah if you look at the years where vaccination was highest you see the lowest incidence of measles.  Once we get lower than 90% coverage outbreaks start happening.  Lower still and we get more and more cases.  The vast majority of the outbreaks have been traced to people who were unvaccinated.

2- There are wayyy worse more viruses to worry about that the measles.

Number of deaths due to Ebola is around 9000 right now.  In 1920 with no vaccination the measles claimed 7700 lives. If ebola is a concern then measles is one too. 

The only RATIONAL MANDATORY should be to the families/relatives of the person that has the virus NOT WORLD WIDE. That is stupid.

Currently it is not mandatory and what, if anything gets suggested will probably be the removal of school exemptions.  Once that gets through congress it will probably be the removal of a few avenues of exemption.  So I wouldn't worry.  However one should ask how many completely unnecessary childrens funerals do you want to arrange before we start considering this.  Is 100 good?  or would you prefer 200 child corpses? 

Well, in all honesty, there are a lot but lets discuss this article.

Then go an find a part that is REALLY STRONG evidence and quote it in your post.  I notice that you didn't do that.

Give me your OPINIONS or facts as to that not being true?

Please provide a piece of strong evidence from your article.

Is not like what you know I can't understand

Actually it seems exactly like that.  You've been weaseling out of my game challenge for a few posts now. 

what you know right now does not mean that i'm STUPID

No what makes you stupid is a bit more complicated.

[sarkeizen]

Those who wish to become much better informed
regarding vaccines, their effects, their ingredients
and more will find many links here.

Again, it's mostly just assertion.  Do you have anything that is more useful?  I think the answer is "no".