Vaccinations; recent developments

[sarkeizen]

As usual you're full of kind of random nonsense...

For example, HPV Vaccines here that cause the leading throat cancer due to being sexually transmitted, cost $600 dollars each.

Cervarix has shown some significant ability to prevent (which is why vaccines are preventative) oral HPV infections which could lead to throat cancer.  Which is in addition to protection against cervical cancer.  The cost of Cervarix varies but it's around $134 per dose - unless you're in Canada (and perhaps other single payer economies) where it's $90.  That's $270 to prevent a disease that would cost either you, your insurer or your economy between $3000 and $45,000 to treat.

$800 for anesthesia. (numbing drug so you don't feel the pain)

That's analgesia.  Anesthesia is about sensation or in the case of general anesthesia it's about keeping you unconscious.  The point is to allow doctors to perform another procedure with a higher chance of success and lower probability of injury.  Anesthesia is expensive because it has a narrow therapeutic range and serious consequences if not done properly.  The insurance an anesthesiologist needs to have can cost between $4000 and $54000 per year.

Look at all the money coming in their fat pockets.

Wah wah wah wah wah.  Joel could you take your whining somewhere else.  Sure doctors aren't poor but they also have costs that are beyond the means of many people as well.  You could just as easily complain about plumbers or electricians or any other professional occupation.

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[joel321]

Cervarix has shown some significant ability to prevent (which is why vaccines are preventative) oral HPV infections which could lead to throat cancer.  Which is in addition to protection against cervical cancer.  The cost of Cervarix varies but it's around $134 per dose - unless you're in Canada (and perhaps other single payer economies) where it's $90.  That's $270 to prevent a disease that would cost either you, your insurer or your economy between $3000 and $45,000 to treat.

lol Cervarix. Did that word come from term cervix which is the opening of the females uterus? Lol 

Due to the contrary beliefs females are very very promiscuous. That is why they would require to get HPV vaccinated first and the reason that most females get throat cancer is because they give "head" where the virus would focus on the throat. Lol

But HPV does not discriminate and would also infect males. BUT, like I've said it before and I'LL said it again, PREVENTION IS ALWAYS THE CURE RATHER THAN THE MEDICINE.

That's analgesia.  Anesthesia is about sensation or in the case of general anesthesia it's about keeping you unconscious.  The point is to allow doctors to perform another procedure with a higher chance of success and lower probability of injury.  Anesthesia is expensive because it has a narrow therapeutic range and serious consequences if not done properly.  The insurance an anesthesiologist needs to have can cost between $4000 and $54000 per year.

NO matter what the name is, you pay BIG money so you can't feel the  pain (you will still feel it the upcoming days). My brother was more worried about dying than the pain WHILE THE HOSPITAL WAS MORE FOCUSING ON EMTYING HIS POCKETS/WALLET! My brother was in the verge of dying and the doctor asked him while his face was bleeding and him worrying about dying "sir, do you want anesthesia or no? If you do, $800 would be added to your bill." While my brother was in tears and blood dripping from his head. True facts! Hospitals treat people like farm animals. I hope you never need to step inside a hospital as a patient.

Joel could you take your whining somewhere else.  Sure doctors aren't poor but they also have costs that are beyond the means of many people as well.  You could just as easily complain about plumbers or electricians or any other professional occupation.

It is pretty obvious that you are bias towards all medical endeavors. You will just turn a blind eye so the only way for you to learn is when you actually get cancer yourself and have to deal with all of the suffering of it all.

You will eventually see it when one of your parents goes through it or one of your of springs too. It's inevitable in the way of greed. Millions don't cure viruses! How can one million dollar cure a simple flu virus strain?

I'm young, I'm healthy for the most part so i'm not whining for my health. I'm just speaking about how I cannot picture myself operating on a human and NOT OPERATE ON A HVAC motor the same. Doctors have it easy because the human body heals itself. The doctor is only helping the IMMUNITY OF THE BODY. The doctor is not a miracle worker.

I'm not whining at all. Heck, I should enter the medical field myself and get my pockets fat. Which I should also enter in the oil field too. Money money money sweet money. Give me money sark I need money to live a healthy life.

Sark, how much money can you give me?

[sarkeizen]

Due to the contrary beliefs females are very very promiscuous.

No, due to the prevalence of the virus in women.

But HPV does not discriminate and would also infect males.

It will but as males do not get cervical cancer and most of the data we have about other sequlae is for females and we only know that the vaccine prevents HPV-16 (and 18) and that HPV-16 is correlated with throat cancer.  So vaccinating males is an open question.

PREVENTION IS ALWAYS THE CURE RATHER THAN THE MEDICINE

Yawn.  As vaccines are preventative measures I'll take this to mean you support universal HPV vaccination.

NO matter what the name is, you pay BIG money so you can't feel the  pain

It depends on a number of things.  Most of the time anesthetic is used to keep people from interfering with a procedure.

My brother was more worried about dying than the pain WHILE THE HOSPITAL WAS MORE FOCUSING ON EMTYING HIS POCKETS/WALLET! My brother was in the verge of dying and the doctor asked him while his face was bleeding and him worrying about dying "sir, do you want anesthesia or no? If you do, $800 would be added to your bill." While my brother was in tears and blood dripping from his head. True facts! Hospitals treat people like farm animals.

So people usually ask farm animals "Would you like pain medication?" - Is that what you do?  Talk to farm animals?  Do they talk back?
If we're assuming that anesthetic was not medically necessary then giving someone a choice for something that isn't necessary for a procedure is exactly  the opposite of how you treat farm animals.  You don't give them a choice.  Even if they had not given him a choice depending on the details of the case it may well be in the patients best interest.

I hope you never need to step inside a hospital as a patient.

I have, and have had no complaints.  Maybe that's because stupid people like you are microchipped at birth and the shadowgovernment issues scanners to medical personnel which allows them to make sure they get the worst treatment...or you're just wrong?

It is pretty obvious that you are bias towards all medical endeavors.

Dude, all you provided was a cost for a few procedures.  Your numbers were considerably off in at least one case.  Then without knowing the procedures done, the cost in equipment and facilities I'm supposed to conclude that this is all about greed. Are you really that clueless about how businesses are run?  So that's why you just sound like an enormous whiner.

Doctors have it easy because the human body heals itself.

LOL - so we can just shut down all the ICU's - throw the people on the street and say "don't worry you'll just get better".  You have to be pretty stupid to think that.

I'm not whining at all.

You sure are, all you gave was the (wrong!) price of some procedures, no information about material costs and facilities.  All it was was sour grapes.

Heck, I should enter the medical field myself and get my pockets fat.

Yes that would be amusing to see you try and pass the medical board exams with "viruses eat other viruses" or "viruses have an immune system".  I would definitely pay money to see that.

[sarkeizen]

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Only someone who didn't read or understand either Wakefield or DeStefano et. al. could write something like that.  I can explain but I doubt you're interested.