Vaccinations; recent developments

[sarkeizen]

Lets watch an episode of monsters inside me to seek truth.

https://youtu.be/WnMocAh_y7A

I just watched the first episode from season one.  It's a cute show but it's soooooo sloooooow moooooving.  Recaps upon recaps upon recaps and so little actual information.  Waaaay too much dramatic music.   Also are the sound bites chosen deliberately to make the people look stupid? I mean: "I never thought something so small could cause so much trouble".  Seriously?

Anyway it appears to be about parasites not viruses.  You realize that these are different things.  Right?

[SeaMonkey]

The Shingles are exceedingly painful.  My episode struck seven
years ago with a vengeance lasting for about seven months.
Still have some scars from the pustules with some loss of
sensation in the affected area.  Really nasty stuff!

It all began with a slight, itchy rash which in a matter of
days became very, very painful shingles.  You older folks
beware!  When you get an annoying itchy region in the
vicinity of your back and ribs get it checked immediately.

[joel321]

Well, that is very interesting.  I had no idea about this which is why I asked.  I wonder if there are other possible explanations?  I mean, i don't know.  I just keep hearing these public service announcements and I was thinking .....how could this be?  I wonder what the trigger point is?  Age?  Time in the body? (like a bomb's timing device) Or, exposure to someone that has shingles and, since your defense is down after 60, you "catch" it like a cold or flu?

If you believe sarkeishill is speaking truth, ask him why do you get vaccinated with live viruses?

Also, ask him, why a lot of people are dying with viruses currently or even dying in a car crash. How is sarkchiken preventing any deaths? Maybe he is killing people slowly with his mentality.

If you believe that sarkchiken is giving you all satisfactory answers, why do you still have two jobs?

What is making you believe that sarkchicken is the super hero of medicine? = don't wonder further, sarkchikeck has all of the answers!

Make sarkchiken your permanent friend, and get back to me to see you a changed man. You will be the healthiest and most virus free person in the entire world just like sarkchiken is....but maybe sarkchiken has a deadly virus right now that he cannot fight with 300 pills a day.....ah well. lol

I personally believe that you have more brain power than that sarkchicken, you are just waiting for some one to tell you how smart you are and how stupid someone else is.

How do I know that?

At your age, you are still pondering life!

[Magluvin]

Top 5 lies still being regurgitated by vaccine fanatics to push toxic immunizations

Learn more:  http://www.naturalnews.com/049006_vaccine_lies_Big_Pharma_corporate_propaganda.html#ixzz3UQt4FqPD
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1) Mercury isn't in vaccines. When "angry as hell" mom Jennifer Hibben-White posted her ignorant rant on Facebook (which was later picked up by CBS News) chastising parents for avoiding vaccines because of mercury, declaring that it's "not in their vaccine," she made a complete fool of herself among those who've done their homework.

Multi-dose vaccines like GlaxoSmithKline's FluLaval, Sanofi Pasteur's Fluzone, bioCSL's Afluria and Novartis' Fluvirin all still contain added thimerosal, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention openly admits is still added to vaccines "to safeguard against possible contamination of the vial once it is opened."

2) Herd immunity is required for vaccines to work. No matter what health authorities claim about so-called "herd immunity," there isn't a shred of credible evidence showing that it's a real thing. When it was first described and given a name, herd immunity was said to only be possible among those who contracted infections naturally.

As we recently pointed out, there have been repeated incidences of infectious disease outbreaks in populations that are 94% or more vaccinated, which is the official threshold for the supposed activation of herd immunity.

3) Vaccines are generally safe. This one is huge, and it's been disproven time and time again by both science (vaccine package inserts openly admit that vaccines cause a host of deadly health conditions) and whistleblowers like Dr. William Thompson from the CDC, who confessed last fall that his agency falsified data which, if honestly presented, clearly linked the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccine to autism.

4) Vaccines are the only way to improve immunity. You would think, based on how the media talks about human health, that the only way to stay free of disease is to repeatedly inject yourself with needles containing aborted human fetal tissue and toxic chemicals. But nothing could be further from the truth, as the immune system thrives when accompanied by strong nutrition, restful sleep and various other healthy lifestyle habits.

The Harvard Medical School has a lot to say about this, offering a basic framework for how to build strong immunity naturally. And within these guidelines, the school also warns that the golden calf of vaccines is flawed, as they sometimes inhibit an appropriate immune system response to infection.

5) Vaccines are highly effective. They really aren't, and science proves this. A study published in the journal The Lancet found that flu vaccines are a total joke, conferring protection in only about 1 out of every 100 adults who get jabbed. More recently, the CDC confessed that this year's flu shot doesn't work.

And again, as it concerns the MMR vaccine, two scientists from Merck & Co. revealed in a False Claims Act filing that the vaccine isn't 95% effective as claimed, and that it actually promotes outbreaks of both mumps and measles.

Sources:

http://www.cbsnews.com

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://www.cdc.gov

http://www.cdc.gov

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://www.youtube.com

http://www.health.harvard.edu

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://www.naturalnews.com

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[sarkeizen]

If you believe sarkeishill is speaking truth, ask him why do you get vaccinated with live viruses?

As I don't actually manufacture vaccines what I'll say is a little generalized but what you are trying to achieve with vaccination is seroconversion.   Effectively you want to be able to take a blood sample and see that the person has developed specific antibodies. 

To do that obviously you want the subject's body to *make* antibodies.  The more the better the resistance.  Obviously one of the factors controlling this would be how localized the infection is.   The more localized the fewer antibodies get created.  Another aspect would be how long the infection lasts for and a third generally are any ways that you can "trick" the body into mounting a greater immune response.

Attenuated vaccines - vaccines with a small number of functioning or partially functioning viruses in them - actually infect tissue and create more viruses (although millions of times less than getting sick) so the immune response is higher and of course this means it lasts longer.   An inactivated vaccine by contrast can only increase the number of viruses by injecting more viral tissue into you.  So that means larger volumes being injected.  Because viruses replicate very quickly and in large numbers there's a limit to how much inactivated material you can inject into someone before there's a law of diminishing returns with regard to the number of antibodies produced.  If you believe that that response is not sufficient to confer immunity then you would choose to introduce more at a later date.  This is what we call a "booster shot".

Finally the number of boosters can be reduced by doing something which causes more antibodies to be produced than the body would normally.  These are called adjuvants and they are things like squalene or aluminum salts and thiomersal.

So attenuated vaccines are often more effective at seroconversion than inactivated vaccines but this advantage is balanced against the ease in storing and transporting them.  There is no way to tell if an attenuated vaccine is still functioning just by looking at it.   That creates an increased chance of no or poor seroconversion.  Inactivated vaccines are also safer as they can be used by the immunocompromised.

Also.....life!

If you can rephrase any of that in intelligible English I'd be happy to respond.