Vaccinations; recent developments

[Magluvin]

Mags 

[sarkeizen]

Mags 

Thankfully "How to Be a Site Like Natural News" is much less complicated.

1) Make shit up.

[Pirate88179]

Thankfully "How to Be a Site Like Natural News" is much less complicated.

1) Make shit up.

We need to deal with facts here people, not wild fantasies.  Some folks hate statistics because their position can be easily proven wrong by them.  The numbers do not lie.

That thing I posted about the carrots is really a good example.  It is totally 100% true, however, if you stopped eating carrots because of it, then you did not understand the numbers.

I can state it another way.....

Everyone that has ever breathed air has died, or will die sometime in the future.

See?  That is totally true.  Do you really want to stop breathing air based upon this?  We have to think for ourselves and, to do that, we need GOOD information to make GOOD decisions.

Now, no one has ever heard a fish vendor yelling "Bad fish!"  So, if I see a study done by a drug company...I am inclined not to believe it on its face.  Conversely, if I see some "facts" posted on a website called "Drug companies are really bad and they are killing us.com" I am also going to be dubious.

We have to be educated and intelligent about how we make our own decisions here.

That is all I am trying to say.

Bill

[joel321]

Pirate, the beauty about learning from experience is that you don't have to ask anyone else what to believe. You don't even have to google it. You don't even have to think that hard about it. When you have been figuring out things from very little that make you live longer than a dodo bird, your unconscious mind basically takes over. It is a part of the brain that thinks automatically and that side is the most conclusive regarding endurance of life.

When you go in the restroom, most likely then not, your unconscious mind will want to take a piss, dump, brush teeth, take a shower, etc. This is the unconscious mind thinking for you. It is not your 'present' mind thinking for you, but the permanent mind which you don't control.

Now, from all of that, I personally can see that you pirate is trying to learn and be open minded to an extend, by the same token, I can see that sarkeizen just feels 'obligated' to defend his 'point' of view at all cost! He believes that his point of view is 100% facts and the end of learning. While that is none-sense. Which kind of puts him on the side of the loony bin mentality lol.

Everyone that has ever breathed air has died, or will die sometime in the future.

Having said that, I do believe in medicine because it is stupid not to believe in it. Air, sun, hearing, touching, are all PREVENTATIVE measures that mother nature has given us.

Air – sniff sniff, I smell fire\my lungs need air.

Sun -- I see a gun pointed at my face\my cells need vitamin D. (and shit load of other things from the sun)

Hearing – I hear gun fire\I hear a baby cry.

Touching – ouch, touching fire hurts\how come I don't squeeze an egg with my hand every time i pick one up.

All of them are preventative measures to survive. This are based upon billions of years of evolution.

So, I do believe in 'medicine' because, just as one person can put a heat sink on a motor to help it cool, one can put a "heat sink" on a person to help it cool down. Like if a person is dying and can't breathe by itself, ok let me artificially help the person breathe to give the immunity a chance to beat the problems.

With out getting further in to how medicine works, it's all just a mater of helping the body to fight the war. Is not that the medicine is down all of the work. The medicine is like a pond for the king and queen. The medicine is not a king nor a queen in the chess board...

Look at poor sarkeizen, believing in the all mighty drugs for survival?

He probably takes 30 pills a day?

Look at any LABELED "sick" person how many pills they take a day?

[Magluvin]

We need to deal with facts here people, not wild fantasies.  Some folks hate statistics because their position can be easily proven wrong by them.  The numbers do not lie.

That thing I posted about the carrots is really a good example.  It is totally 100% true, however, if you stopped eating carrots because of it, then you did not understand the numbers.

I can state it another way.....

Everyone that has ever breathed air has died, or will die sometime in the future.

See?  That is totally true.  Do you really want to stop breathing air based upon this?  We have to think for ourselves and, to do that, we need GOOD information to make GOOD decisions.

Now, no one has ever heard a fish vendor yelling "Bad fish!"  So, if I see a study done by a drug company...I am inclined not to believe it on its face.  Conversely, if I see some "facts" posted on a website called "Drug companies are really bad and they are killing us.com" I am also going to be dubious.

We have to be educated and intelligent about how we make our own decisions here.

That is all I am trying to say.

Bill

I hope you were not offended by my reply about the carrots earlier.

In ordinary advertizing there is an incredible amount of money spent on it. Because most of the time, it helps business. And a lot of that advertizing goes through one ear and out the other(consciously) for many people, but for a lot of them something sticks and becomes something that they know by way of it playing every 15min on a radio or tv channel and maybe a catchy jingle.

So lets say that the radio station played that carrot story just 1 time.  How many people that heard it may have not fully gotten the jist of it, or just heard it without full concentration. there is a possibility that some people are walking around saying the heard that if you eat carrot you will die. For some, the 'eventually' part may not sink in as a sarcastic remark and take the whole saying as if, well, its probably not good to eat carrots. Whether it was just a parody, joke or sarcasm, the whole suggestion of eating carrots and you will eventually die is not a positive thing to hear in the subconscious. The brain is weird like that. Say a negative thing enough, no matter the context, and that negative thing will stick.

I read a few articles where people have cured their own cancer with carrots. One article said a woman with stage 4 cancer did a regimen of 3 pounds of organic carrots into juice per day, and cured her. The big problem with healthcare in the big picture is that they dont embrace a good diet for the patients. My mom was told the other day not to skip any meds and 'dont change your diet'

"Yes Mrs Luvin, just stay on course, and dont forget to keep using 2 sticks of butter in your daily meals. Eat what you want. The Lipitor will take care of everything."



Here is a good one that I just found that seems to be working for a problem i have had for several months. My Achilles tendon has been hurting in both legs, the left one the most .  4 days ago, I had made myself some organic bowtie pasta and 1/3 jar of Ragu extra chunky mushroom. I had not made it in a while. I woke up 3 days ago with some pain but less for sure. Then by the end of the day, nada. When I went to sleep, the tendons were not burning like fire as they had before. The next day, yesterday, I was great all day. No pasta n sauce the yesterday or the day before every night. But last night, early evening, some pain, some burning before sleep, but not like before. So I did a larger serving later in the evening. Today, I feel great. Tendons are a little tight because I wasnt working them hard due to pain. But I sit here now and I feel nothing. Tomatos when cooked make some vitamins more available than raw.

So what Im going to do is eat the pasta n ragu every other day for a few days and see if the effects last, and if they do, I will stop for some days to see if pain comes back.

If anyone has this tendon problem, it causes pain in the arch, the heal and lower rear calf, and you are not alergic to pasta or ragu extra chunky, give it a go and see if it works for you.

My thyroid lump has been gone for nearly 1 year now and It was selenium supplements that helped, where I did similar tests, but over weeks as it took about 1 1/2 months to subside in the beginning. Took 2 weeks off the selenium and the lump grew again. Just some. Back on the selenium and gone. lately I can go for a few weeks of of the selenium and no lump. Had that thing for about 8 years. Byby little lump bout the size of half a peach. Byby. Some months lather NN posted an article about thyroid and selenium. Also was in womans health mag on the shelf in the grocery store by the checkout a few months ago. I had found it by accident. The bottle claimed good for prostate prevention. Be 50 this year so I figured the prostate I would like to keep. NN.com says also Nascent Iodine can help also. Havnt needed to try though. So. 

So far, several other people that I know, the selenium helped them also. 1 person it didnt help. But the selenium didnt hurt them when they tried it.

Back and knee pain along with arthritis in my hands. Hard to put underwear and socks on, use a pair of pliers or kneel down to work on a car.  About 2 months of raw milk and all three disipated at the same time. A friend had been telling me what it did for him for 2 years before I tried it. I drink 1 gal a week now.


NN.com had a story about sodium benzote. A preservative. Found in most soft drinks, chinese takout soy sauce,and the duck sauce. They put it in a lot of foods. Well if you are a health conscious person, sodium benzote when mixed with vitamin C produces benzene. Not good for you at all. Look it up.

These companies dont care. Food co. Drug Co. EPA. FDA, they dont care. We have to work and do research to find out how not to poison ourselves and re find the stuff that is truely good for us. All of the little bits of these bad things add up over time.

On another health concern....
Ever keep up on the nuke plant meltdown in Japan?  It definitely isnt getting any better. Coverup of the century. NN.com just did a review of a portable radiation detector. Ebay has them in several sorts and capabilities.

Bah, It 'all' just sucks for all of us. So use due diligence and help yourself help you, and others.

Wasnt planning on all that writing. Had things to do. But I did anyway.

Mags

Mags