What's wrong with this

[Floor]

@MarkE

quote "And yet, you fail to see the irony in your own posts.  It's a curious world." from MarkE

quote "It's not a question of irony it's a question of why you are pretending  not to uderstand what's
going on here. I see your comment as lacking honesty. I could be wrong. However, I don't belive that you think I'm wrong.
Did you not just observe in your own mind, the movments which were to convince youself that you
are being honest. It's easier to lie convincingly if one can set it up first in their own mind.
If you wish to remain in this LOW CLASS STATE of mind, It's not my place to try to force you to change.
But it does mess up the communicating with when one of the parties wont be honest."  from floor

Correct me if I am  wrong here,  but I think that you felt as if your were being attacked at that point in the converstion.

Also that you thought that it was ironic that some one you perceived as attacking you, would at the same time be
adressing the issue of poor comunication practices.

I see now that this was the result of your failure to comperhend the basics of the topic.  Go ahead and review the first
few pages of the topic.

[tinman]

I think that you may have overlooked that the energy to reinflate the gas containers is at least equal to the energy removed from the gas by the sea water heat sink.  Put another way, you can calculate the energy required to expel some amount of ballast sea water as the product of the mass of that ejected ballast and the distance to the sea surface.

No,i didnt over look anything,in fact,the more heat that is removed from the transition from gas to liquid,the more energy we get back.The energy ratio from liquid to gas,and then from gas back to liquid is about 10:7.5. In other words we have a 25% loss at this time. But then come's my previous questions-what energy can be gained from a constant 500kg pull over 3.2km. Another way to see this is looking at the under water hydro turbine's,where as the flow of water past the propellors generate's electricity,but in this case,we are moving the propellors through the water to gain our water flow over those propellors-->3.2km up,and 3.2km down.

[allcanadian]

@tinman

No,i didnt over look anything,in fact,the more heat that is removed from the transition from gas to liquid,the more energy we get back.The energy ratio from liquid to gas,and then from gas back to liquid is about 10:7.5. In other words we have a 25% loss at this time. But then come's my previous questions-what energy can be gained from a constant 500kg pull over 3.2km. Another way to see this is looking at the under water hydro turbine's,where as the flow of water past the propellors generate's electricity,but in this case,we are moving the propellors through the water to gain our water flow over those propellors-->3.2km up,and 3.2km down.

I hear ya, I once did similar experiments. While completely shit faced I once bent over very carefully and jerked furiously upwards hard and fast on my heavy bootstraps. The next thing I know I'm waking up on the floor... why my head must have hit the roof with such force it damn near broke my neck and knocked me out cold. The ratio was 10 shots of Rye whiskey to my 7.5 inch bootstraps if I remember correctly which is kind of questionable but somehow amazing.
There may be something to this 10:7.5 ratio, I may need to try this on the roof of a moving car or bus to confirm my suspicions but I'm still trying to figure out how not to spill my drinks in the process...that would be wrong.


AC

[Floor]

@MarkE

What's ironic from my point of view rather than from yours ?

The topic sky rockets to a large number of readings, while the subject gets lost.

Is it a waste of band width ? maybe maybe not.

I tend to think so.

[Floor]

@ markE

@ MarkE

                            The following is another "style" of reply.  It is an example of poor communication and some
thing we can all work on.  I'm playing fair here by giving you fore warning. I don't have to, except,  to
keep from falling to this kind of perons level, and because I don't really wish to cause you any harm.
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Mark, sometimes when you come into a topic, it's like a vampire has come into the room sucking all of the life out of it,
while at the same restoreing that once fresh air with the smell of some rotting carcus he's been feeding on.
Yes that's It, vampire breath.

I think it's like a suffocating ASSUMING / CONDESCENIG  air.

Is this because you have some kind of a disability?  Is this, perhaps the cause of this assuming /condescending
behavior ?  Has this allways been a issue for you in your life?  An issue perhaps from a controlling mother or father
that used a similar method ?
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On the other hand the following comment, does not offend me, and for lots of reason.

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flo, sometimes when you come into a topic, it's like a vampire has come into the room sucking all of the life out of it,
while at the same restoreing that once fresh air with the smell of some rotting carcus he's been feeding on.
Yes that's It, vampire breath.

I think it's like a suffocating ASSUMING / CONDESCENIG  air.

Is this because you have some kind of a disability?  Is this, perhaps the cause of this assuming /condescending
behavior ?  Has this allways been a issue for you in your life?  An issue perhaps from a controlling mother or father
that used a similar method ?
............................

Different context and so on.