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Overunity Machines Forum



Generator by Gerard Morin

Started by d3x0r, December 15, 2014, 04:34:16 AM

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citfta

I have to admit I am undecided about Gerard.  I can't decide if he is really as dumb as he sounds or if he is just another scam artist.  Nothing he says makes any sense to me.  I worked in electronics on and off for over 50 years.  The last 30 years before I retired I was an industrial maintenance electrician working on all kinds of CNC equipment.  I am also a ham radio operator and fly RC airplanes so I think I know a little about electronics.

I did run into something interesting with the little pump motors Gerard was playing with.  Someone else tipped me off to them acting a little strange.  So I did some testing of my own.  If you remove the pump housing and the rotor you now have a nice coil assembly to play with that is a little unusual.  There are two coils with one coil on each leg of the stator laminations.  Very similar to the Ed Ledskilnin PMH.

After I built a test setup to test the coil assembly as a generator I got some interesting results.  I was using a razor scooter motor that has not been modified in any way.   I also have a crankshaft pulley from a Honda Accord as a flywheel. (This is actually for another test).  I have a rotor that has eight 1 inch ceramic magnets mounted in the rotor.  This is made in such a way that the magnets of the rotor can pass between the ends of the laminations of the pump motor coils.

I ran this test setup for about 15 minutes with no coils anywhere near the magnets.  I did this to let the bearings and motor warm up to get a good baseline current draw.  After the current had settled down I took a baseline reading with a digital meter and the current was 1.00 amps at a voltage of 12.44 volts going to the motor.  This gives a power calculation of about 12.44 watts for a no load condition.

When I added the pump motor coils to the test setup I got 9 volts from them going into a 50 ohm load.  At that time I did not have an extra digital ammeter so I calculated the current and the wattage and came up with 1.62 watts going into the 50 ohm load.

The interesting part is that the input current only went up by .1 amp for an increase in power in of 1.24 watts.  So if my measurements are correct then the pump motor coils are 130% efficient.  I am open to the idea that I made a mistake somewhere but if you think I did please show me where.  I have included a picture to show how the coils and rotor are working together.  Note that for the test I held the coils by hand as I have not taken time to make a good mounting system for the coils.

Also if you are looking for some of these coils most of them have a plastic housing on them which does not let you see the coils.  I was fortunate enough to find a couple of them without that housing so you can see exactly how the coils are wired and mounted.

Carroll

citfta

Quote from: scratchrobot on October 15, 2015, 11:01:19 AM
What more proof do you need? The numbers speak for them self.
This one is self running and charges the battery and is powering a light on top of it!
It doesn't matter volts or amps is all the same, this thing is amazing, can you imagine running this at 10.000 rpm  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLnf_gP7K8

Sorry but if you think volts and amps are the same you really need to spend some time learning a little about electronics.  Voltage readings or current readings by themselves mean nothing.  You have to combine the two to get a power value and THAT is the only value that means anything when trying to measure efficiency of a circuit.

As far as that video it means nothing.  In fact it is a joke.  Why is he using a meter that has an almost dead battery?  Anyone that has a digital meter knows the readings get flaky when the battery gets low.  And why does he need another transformer to step the voltage down to 12 volts and rectify it to charge the battery when he already has a battery charger connected to the battery?  And what are all the caps for?

Gerard showed a video almost identical to that one where he took the power from a battery and ran it to an inverter and then to motor controller and then powered the motor to drive a generator which he then fed back to a battery charger and claimed he was keeping the battery charged.  He said he was going to come back in the morning and show us the battery was still charged and the system still running.  The video ended and we never saw what he found when he went back.

Respectfully,
Carroll

ramset

citfta
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The interesting part is that the input current only went up by .1 amp for an increase in power in of 1.24 watts.  So if my measurements are correct then the pump motor coils are 130% efficient.

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Sir
Do you have a schematic ?

apologies  if you have provided this already.

respectfully

Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

citfta

Hi Chet,

No schematic, but the output of the coils just went directly to the 50 ohm resistance load.  I measured the rms value with my scope that has a function to measure rms or p-p.  Also the frequency of the signal was 95 hertz.  The coils are wired in series and in series with the load.  Just a simple loop.

Carroll

ramset

Carroll
thank you for the response.
I am always asked for a schematic no matter how simple the circuit may seem, even a "napkin" schematic would be of great benefit
especially where you are taking measurements .

_apparent_ excess energy can be quite tricky and in "most" cases explained away.
it would be good to investigate this claim as effectively as possible and account for all energy in the System.

sometimes it can be the simple things that escape measurement [like heat and RF] for instance we were wasting heat or
sending out RF [unbeknownst] and then did something which stopped the waste and put it to work so it could then be measured
into our system adding to our COP measurement .

in these cases [OU COP Claims] all things must be measured and accounted for ,it also helps get the community
onto things which have more potential , I am not saying anything negative about your experience just adding some advice which has helped myself and others save countless wasted hours and resource.

respectfully

Chet

Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma