Delayed Lenz or not?... post your explaination!

[MileHigh]

Everything you guys say is just vapid meaningless bullcrap.

This is the dead end where Synchro1 has no place to go.  We all know that he can't make a technical argument to back up his fantasy talk.  So the only place left to go is the bad attitude and the meaningless brush-off.  In other words, time to run away.

This is an example of the psychological problems on display.

[MarkE]

@MarkE,

Everything you guys say is just vapid meaningless bullcrap.

Synchro1 I have offered you detailed explanations of the physics which you are free to test at your convenience.  If you are going to stomp your feet and exclaim "no it isn't" then you waste your opportunity to learn.

[synchro1]

Take a look at this video. "Lenz Delay Effect" is a result of magnetization in a core:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ5xnyj7xe4

[tinman]

You are on the wrong track Tinman.  The speed of light or magnetic field propagation speed does not affect the operation of a transformer or pulse motor at the frequencies we are normally dealing with.  It's just a few picoseconds for the magnetic field propagation.

Here is a fun factoid:

http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=122654

MileHigh

When something is delayed,that dosnt just mean how long it takes to get from one point to another. It can also mean we delay the time at which point the magnetic field in the generating coil is allowed to be produced. An open coil will not produce current,and thus no CEMF will be created-but a voltage still exist across that coil.If we delay the time a load is placed on the coil,we also delay the lenz force relative to that of the position of the rotor magnet. What has happened here is that you(and others) asume that it is the prpagation speed of the magnetic field that is said to be delayed,when in actual fact it can be the delay in time of an allowed current flow through the generating coil. This is nothing new,and i really do not understand as to how any one can say that a CEMF cannot be delayed relative to that of the inducing magnetic field. PM fields can be flipped or miss aligned to that of the CEMF produced from the generating coil. I want to see some one show !speed up under load) with an air core coil.

[synchro1]

When something is delayed,that dosnt just mean how long it takes to get from one point to another. It can also mean we delay the time at which point the magnetic field in the generating coil is allowed to be produced. An open coil will not produce current,and thus no CEMF will be created-but a voltage still exist across that coil.If we delay the time a load is placed on the coil,we also delay the lenz force relative to that of the position of the rotor magnet. What has happened here is that you(and others) asume that it is the prpagation speed of the magnetic field that is said to be delayed,when in actual fact it can be the delay in time of an allowed current flow through the generating coil. This is nothing new,and i really do not understand as to how any one can say that a CEMF cannot be delayed relative to that of the inducing magnetic field. PM fields can be flipped or miss aligned to that of the CEMF produced from the generating coil. I want to see some one show !speed up under load) with an air core coil.

@Timan,

I know you don't need to be reminded that the air core of a coil has a permeability rating somewhere between a vacuum and nanochyrstaline. The aircore coil shares all the same characteristics of other cores with the notable exception of "Lenz Delay Threshold". The rotor just needs to travel faster before it gets the effect with an air core coil. The greater the load the closer it is to a dead short. Air magnetizes! The "Lenz Delay Effect" in an air core coil is the result of the magnetization of the air!