Lenz free generator

[EMJunkie]

Well,must have been the day to put down our beloved pet's,as we had to put one of our dogs down today--such is life

But i must say,i am confused about the rest of your post,as this was your idea of a friendly little comp.
To quote post 264
I would be interested in showing you ladies how it's done in a friendly competition however I have a different set of rules.
1) The motor/generator can have any configuration you want however to keep it simple the device should be no larger than let's say 20 lb.
2)The entire device as well as all associated circuitry must be clearly visible.
3)My favorite... No power supplies of any kind are allowed and the device must be electrically dead in every sense of the word at the start. However we are allowed to spin up the device by hand at the start to any RPM we can muster.
4)A storage capacitor of a value to be determined is allowed to store the output from the device which will also be the only electrical input allowed to the device. The capacitor will be at zero voltage at the start of the test.
5)A DMM or preferably an oscilloscope will show the voltage on the capacitor during the entire duration of the test.
You see this is where all the BS stops and either the capacitor voltage rises or it falls. The rate at which the capacitor voltage rises or falls determines the total efficiency. If the initial spin up at the start cannot generate enough power to charge the capacitor to operate the device and maintain it then your hooped.

And post 493
All in all I like your video even if I'm going to kick your ass but that does not mean we cannot be friends. Competition is good so long as we are moving in the right direction and this direction benefits others.

One minute you are going to show us how it's all done,and the next,your not interested in the very competition you set the rules for--you no longer wish to show us how it's done

Oh well-what ever.


Brad

Brad, sorry to hear about your Dog. Its sad when your loved ones pass.

On another note, I am up for a Motor Build off, you start the Thread with rules... Or if you like I can throw up a dedicated site with access for all keen?

My motor skills are very poor! I will not win!!! But its still going to be fun

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

Thanks Chris, even at 81 I still occasionally run on ego... and that was a big boost, LOL


Love those old pics! them old boys knew their stuff.


A couple of clarifications for those following this. I mentioned rotor cogging at the gap... well that was without the end bars and the cogging "nearly" went away with end bars in place, duh. Next, I an only using one end bar (core) as with two, the flux strength is neatly divided in half so it is my suspicion that I can get max output from one coil as with two coils in parallel??? any ideas?

Will dig out the Gauss meter today...

Ron

Hey Ron - Mate, good on you!!! We are all welcome to a little Ego Boost from time to time!!!

Yes Sir! Those old Dynamo's, some 100+ Years old are just works of Art! The Design, the craftsmanship, the care taken on the little fittings, they are beautiful machines! Below, my most favorite of all:

With the second End Bar, if you have one, it may be worth fitting, run the experiments.

You have build a beautiful machine Ron!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

I have put a basic site up if anyone is keen to enter? Register if you want to Enter!!!

URL: http://buildoff.hyiq.org/

Its only new, DNS may be propagating still, so some may not be able to visit just yet, keep trying, it will work as soon as DNS is done.

Please let me know and we can add/remove information as needed.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[barbosi]

Some have expressed their wish to learn. I don't think learning should be confused with memorization process, and it's rather based on comprehension. And comprehension comes after individual exploration at great depths, as result of individual particular questions one may ask him/herself.

Depending on individual readiness in exploring the electricity, as I consider a "student" myself, I dare to share with you the others a condensed  presentation of what we have missed. These information are not contained in any mainstream books, there are no formulas nor take-out quotes.

As we are on our own, we can become inventors or continue as spectacular mediocrities, the only critic being our own work - a novelty or a copycat (with all its variations).

The following links some of you may find interesting or boring, intriguing or crazy, approachable or impossible, "the missing link" or "missed my time", however I wish you all the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KooPsEE7E-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9S3ikiL3Ow

Regards

[Magluvin]

He guys. An off topic question

Im discussing the cap to cap deal with a youtuber. 

Now in previous discussions on this, if I remember correctly, when we do the identical cap to cap deal, we lose 50% of the total energy. Correct?

Well back then I believe that when we change the values of the caps, one larger and one smaller, or even the other way around, that the total energy outcome becomes less than the 50% loss. Correct?   

Now this guy brought up something that was even stranger to me.

He said he did the experiment using a 350F cap at 12v, and did the cap to cap with an 82uf cap and ended up with 11.9v in each. Here is the strange part for me...

I did the calculations. As I can see it, we did lose less than 50% as shown below. He claims we still lost 50% total, but he is wrong there, but.....

350f  12v  25200J

350F  11.9v  24781J    and the 82uf cap at 11.9v was .0058J

So we didnt lose 50% in total, but it seems we lost a tremendous amount in the transfer.

In the 350F cap we lost 419J and only ended up with 5.8mJ or .0058J     What the heck?

We lost a lot in that transfer, did we not?? Im not talking about total losses as in we lost half of the 25200J, but the loss in the transfer and what we ended up with in the 82uf cap seems like a very huge cost to charge that little cap.  Am I doing something wrong here?? I used 2 different online calculators and the same results.

So now Im not concerned with the 50% loss any longer with identical caps.

We were arguing about the 50%, and I described the same example using 1 large cap and on small cap. Yes, we did not lose 50% in total. But this what Im saying above seems a bit more shocking considering.   The efficiency of what we used from the larger cap compared to what we ended up with in the smaller cap dwarfs the idea of the original 50% loss subject. To me anyway, so far.

Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Or am I just freaking out over nothing??

Mags