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Lenz free generator

Started by life is illusion, December 21, 2014, 03:20:03 PM

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lancaIV

Good morning,Ladies and Sires,somewhere !


Jeg,"We examine a system which gains energy during discharge" or instead "gains": amplify ?!
                                 "Gains" means structurely something has to "loose" !
                                           geben/giving or nehmen/taking

How is the "dis/charge process: charge(Coloumb) entering,physical movement, leaving" imaginable -greater dimension- to define/explain ?
                                      quantum mechanics by "for us consumer real world" mechanical/kinetical example

for this thesis: "So if charging and stored energy equals E1=0.5LI^2, then discharging energy E2 would be E2>E1!!! " DEMONSTRATION

Moving Energy source:Electricity takes Extra-Energy from the potential Energy source ? The engine material ? Measuring weight and temperature and ...... ??? (more Parameter ?) ! The ambient ? The nearer outside or far outside ? Communication,wi.fi.
 
                   For Tesla the main use idea(l)  has been for global communication,like Ferrari and Marconi.
                                                     Seismic waves/vibrations/oszillations

                 1 machine/engine: many different materials(Gram/cm³),rough/fine surfaces, so many different re-/action "own-/Eigen"frequencies
                                                   starting/Anlauf-Process : warm-? cold-?

                                                      how is "warm to cold and vice-versa physically defind ?)

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSchukey-Motor&edit-text=
                                                            transformer       ( German:  transform er ! Imperativ  !  command: change it !)
   
                        "The 5.th element"movie: the Taxi-drive system :"Gleiter/Lifter" on/in a magnetic path/channel
                                               Maglev moving principle ? Leve~Light/light  Levitation (G)Lighter/Lifter

                   metal(l)ic cable and or glas(s)-fiber cable : good for :use possibilities ? bad for ? silicon/silicium cable ? graphene cable ?

                   What is the Energy source from a solely permanent magnet ? It is ,relatively, a perpetuum mobile device !
                                                                        If not fixed/coupled  !
                                                               perpetuum magnet force decay ! why :" Currie "-temperature/density limit ? Barkhausen

                                         per manere~ by staying
                                         per petere ~ repeating,feedbacking




                           light velocity : in air /in vacuuo/vacuum                     e-vacuation ? means ? real life and physics


                           gap : distance ? bridge to overcome ! which time velocity ?   

      How do we drive on real life streets and how "in this quantummechanics street/channel" our engine by engineering~driving"
                                          motor 5-steps or auto-matic  transmissior/gear differential brake kupplung gaspedal
                                          or hybrid
                                          or e-motive

                                          but each system needs a starter and this his "starting energy source" and we the motiv(e)/ation of a target


(the engine: does it not need a target and motivation ,too :    http://comps.canstockphoto.de/can-stock-photo_csp27842774.jpg   ? ;) )
                                          Do you remember: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Christine.jpg
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdwO2smdoNc

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gotquestions.org%2FDeutsch%2Fodem-des-lebens.html&edit-text=


                                       breath of life ,German : Od,Odem       Psy/PSI-chology: Motive/Motivation
                                         Thomas de Aquino: "gerechte Ertrag/google english: equitable income


                                       programer stupidity ,no philosophy behind: Belohnung/reward/Praemie/Gain "to be on earth a good guy"
                                       How many virgins,Vollpension~all inclusive- por gratia/gratis ? no=in paraiso=Eden=Heaven=Garden=Yard ?

( in,english=no ,portuguese; Portugal is a "special case": donated by King D.Diniz "to Heaven", and the catholic church works "for ever" )

                                                                             "Hey WARD,my reward !"
          Ward ??? : "Bloedmann ! Laß -mich- in Frieden . :-\ Du hast auf dem Garten"Erde" deine Chance gehabt !" 8)
          Reward-commander:  :o  " Und ich war immer imper-a-c-tive  :'( :-X :P (~Following THE COMMANDS 1:1 = Egalite/UNITY)

                                      interpretation:   https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=life+is+for+living+barclay+james+harvest+lyrics&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Sincerely
              OCWL

EMJunkie

Quote from: Jeg on September 27, 2016, 07:42:29 AM
Hi all
I watch with great interest your conversation guys, thanks a lot for sharing ideas. I'd like to ask Erfinder about this:

Energy stored inside an inductor's magnetic field is E=0,5xLxI^2

With certain value of current and inductance we have a certain amount of energy stored. If the same energy is discharged through higher L, won't discharging peak current (I)  be less than what we have used during the charging cycle? (I=sqrt 2E/L).   

Thanks

Quote from: Jeg on September 29, 2016, 01:52:50 AM
This was a misconception. Sorry guys. We examine a system which gains energy during discharge. So if charging and stored energy equals E1=0.5LI^2, then discharging energy E2 would be E2>E1!!!

Having this in mind check again the terms of the equation and decide by yourselves what needs for this to be accomplished.

"Conventionality doesn't lay at present equations which describe physical laws. It only lays in our interaction as observers to the said equations which describe these laws..."

Jeg



Jeg - Youre spot on in my opinion. Keeping the Current as high as possible is key, so the Resistance must not change, but something else can change! A Magnetic Field in proximity can change the Inductance!

Experiment:
Take a Coil, Air Core and Cored, measure the Inductance, place a large Magnet on the top, now measure the inductance. See below images.

Coil Shorting can do this also, as Cifta has shown. Finding an economical way to do this is key to a good result.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


lancaIV

We humans are also "magnetic" antennas: when I go to my music-box(the real antenna broken and extracted),I have to tune the right UKW frequency -with calculating my presense by the music wave device and without my presence !


                                                                    antenna feedback cycle


A radio in the kitchen 
and a refrigerator in the kitchen
music on
refrigerator(enclosed chamber,volume,temperature) door open/closed : difference ? why ? interference cold/hot ambiental waves/particles


em devices test : ambiental (room temperature) and in refrigerator (closed refrigerator door != evacuated ) ?

lancaIV

Quote from: webby1 on September 29, 2016, 07:36:33 AM
Communications waves,, are they the same??? not really sure, not sure if that matter.  I don't think we need to get into split pairs,, :)

So the numbers you used,, they show that I can spend 1A for 3 seconds to make little or 1A for .003 seconds to make a lot, so is it in how much I spend?

I also think that the inductive action by itself from the inductor would modify the flux in the proximity of the coil as the changing wave happened,, I see it blowing a small hole within the field and then getting filled up with the field,, not sure on that but that is what I am thinking at this time.

Getting back to the time rate of change thing,,

Did any one else notice that the COST to make the change was still .9A per whatever time and then think that in the way we use things today we MUST spend the time and the energy to slowly allow a change to happen compared to how fast that change can propagate,, so we are not using a *quality* of the field but rather using it like a stick that can push other things for us. <= this is why our present method only allows for getting out what you put in.

Once you start taking energy out to make more pass through things start to look a little different,, well to me they have anyway.


We are all under observation 8)  ,you also webby1 (www1 ? ::) )
you pro-voke~voz~voice ,and expect re-question=answer ?           ~ serpens,slang,Schlange,Zunge religion: angel(s)/engel(n)                                                                                                                                                                         Dialektik

                                                                                                             Dialektische Materialismus
                                                                                                             1000 words= 1 Image/Ikon/thing/Ding

www delivers you an answer choice:
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=kanarev+physics&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 called duty cycle


taking: http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/
            http://fbadhusha.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/9/5/3895546/ele-pulse-power.pdf


           page 2 : Let us put a question: has power pulse (Fig. 3) 15 kW actually, and is average value of pulse power equal to 144 W?

                   page 3           Is the calculation carried out correctly? [1]

Later on, we'll prove experimentally that power pulse (Fig. 3) has not 15000 W and 144.80 W, but only 1.40 W.




                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           page 6
Thus, the power pulse shown in Fig. 3 has not 15 kW and not 144.8 W, but only P = UC ⋅ IC = 2.88⋅ 0.48 = 1.40W .
Maxwell: displacement current/german: Blindstrom   Wirkleistung     Scheinleistung    Blindleistung          W VA VAr
                                                                                  active power     apparent power   reactive power


                                                                                                       Schein: brill-bright,Note(banking), physics : seem/appear       
                                                                                                       Blind : 8)  ...

Grumage

Quote from: webby1 on September 29, 2016, 07:36:33 AM

Getting back to the time rate of change thing,,

Did any one else notice that the COST to make the change was still .9A per whatever time and then think that in the way we use things today we MUST spend the time and the energy to slowly allow a change to happen compared to how fast that change can propagate,, so we are not using a *quality* of the field but rather using it like a stick that can push other things for us. <= this is why our present method only allows for getting out what you put in.

Once you start taking energy out to make more pass through things start to look a little different,, well to me they have anyway.

Dear webby1.

It has seemed to me that man, as a species has always bludgeoned things into submission! Ah that didn't work, find me a bigger hammer.

Nature on the other hand works in harmony. Time to find a more natural approach.

I'm enjoying the thread, nice to read the thoughts of others, keep up the great work guys.

Cheers Grum.