How to make a Music Electricity ( aka Standing Waves)?

[MarkE]

According to the mathematians:

Pi= 3,141 592 653 589 793 ....
Phi=1.618033...

my question is not how they came up with this?

You have obviously Googled the values, which means you have almost certainly seen in articles on those numbers how they have been derived since the days of the Greeks.  So what part of the thousands and thousands of web pages that explain these two values is giving you trouble?

in nature everything is proportional, its all about music if you prefer

so what is the ''perfect'' value used by nature?

the answer:

pi=a/b
phi=c/d
(a,b,c,d are natural number)

why this so important?
because, we need to make a  music / standing waves

frequancy= wave speed/ wave lengeth

electromagnetic waves, sound waves.. its the same rule!

BUT in music, we have no ''perfect'' tuning and this is the topic,  so  my quetion is:
how to tune in the coil?

other exemple:

In the field of amplified speaker design,  there is a long-known secret about how to keep unintended standing waves from forming. sealed box enclosures are always built with interior proportions ''aproximating'' the golden ratio! and its inverse, such as 0.62*1*1.62.
(just fibonacci 0.62 + 1 = 1.62)

These proportions are widely considered  antiharmonic and optimal for eliminating standing waves inside a speaker box.
This works because standing waves cannot form when reflected at or near the proportion of the golden ratio or its inverse!!

Similarly, rooms and auditoriums built in this proportion will not echo and, along with non-reflective materials, avoid extraneous dissipation or cancellation of the original sound energy that can occur in interfering waves!!!


Best Regards and have a good new year
luc2010

Except that you are wrong.  Where there are surfaces with non-zero reflectivity inside a cavity standing waves form: period.  The Phi ratio has many interesting qualities, but it does not eliminate reverberations.  The only way to eliminate reverberations in a cavity is for the walls to absorb incident energy completely.

[luc2010]

Hello,
             
        They are just interested in the induction created by running a current or charge through a coil of any given length. What we (Tesla fellow not yet ) do and what natures does is tune into natural frequencies and run off the energy that holds together the fabric of existence!!!!

Best regards
luc2010

[luc2010]

Hi,

f= c/l
f=frequency
c= wave speed
l= wave lengeth

Any benifit from using this equation?
if l= coil lengeth

lets first we All agree on that?

Next step will be using all dimensions  from a harmonics of that value!
ln=n*l
......
thare is no "perfect" tuning so lets try with this one:

just intonation scale proportions:
24,27,30,32,36,40,45,48

heigth =40/24 diameter

number turn?

now how to do that?

Best Regards
luc2010

[TinselKoala]

Unbelievable. You don't get to choose your 'favorite' value for physical constants like pi !

If you want to start making up numbers then you can "prove" anything you want.

Hi,

f= c/l
f=frequency
c= wave speed
l= wave lengeth

Any benifit from using this equation?
if l= coil lengeth

lets first we All agree on that?

Next step will be using all dimensions  from a harmonics of that value!
ln=n*l
......
thare is no "perfect" tuning so lets try with this one:

just intonation scale proportions:
24,27,30,32,36,40,45,48

heigth =40/24 diameter

number turn?

now how to do that?

Best Regards
luc2010 

Unfortunately... the answer will require using the correct value for pi, as well as knowing such things as the diameter of the wire...

Once again there are many many calculators available on the internet that will tell you how many turns of a given diameter wire with a given insulation thickness you need to wind on a form of a given diameter, with a given inter-turn spacing, to arrive at a given physical length of wire and winding height and a given electrical length, resonant frequency when coupled with a given capacitance, etc. Unfortunately all these calculators use the same value for pi... and it's not your "favorite" one.

[luc2010]

Unbelievable. You don't get to choose your 'favorite' value for physical constants like pi !

I think when we want to caculate pi without computers assistance and using heigh "algebra" numbering system and without circular argument?   Just using some "primitive" tools and commun sense?
Yes, Its the "magic" of squring the circle!!

When Mathematicians and scientists agree that mathematics is le language of God, then why do we think that God would speak  an irrational language with us like the present irrational mathematical pi accepted by the mathematicians and scientists, which is also the most famous  mathematical constant and a symbole of our universe.

It should be rather a perfect rational mathematical  with full representation of our universe and the language of God which should be a rational mathematical language!!!

Please, help me to find the answer of this question:
(how to apply this music rule)?

Are you trying to says its ''impossible" tasks to achives?

Best Regards
luc2010