New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago

[rickfriedrich]

I'm sorry my friend or enemy, you are mistaken. I exposed him when other people believed in that. I was exposing several people like that at that time. Yes we did play around with magnet motors and I still have the rotor where the rotor almost or just about maintained rotation. While we knew it was a fake, nevertheless it was fun to explore some things in showing that.

I always said that those kinds of systems were not practical even if you could maintain rotation. We played around with the Howard Johnson train and track that I had access to for years. My friend spent much time attempting to calculate what energy it took to bring the train into position and how much force it pushed the train out of the magnetic tunnel. It really wasn't impressive considering all the cost of the magnets and the time it would take to glue them all together. I thought maybe we could make the train go around in a loop or something but it was doubtful that it could even maintain that rotation.
I was not really interested in pursuing that kind of system with regular magnets. Magnets needed to be made differently to make a purely magnet motor, otherwise at best you get just a curious self-rotating device that does no practical work.

No, you didn't expose Mylow, and it's perfectly clear in the video that you fully believe what you are doing. Show the video and let the viewers decide whether it was a "joke" or not.

I exposed Mylow, in over two dozen video demonstrations and a long thread on this forum, even to the point of Sterling Allan admitting that I was the first to "reproduce" Mylow's drive system. Yet he weaseled out of awarding me the prize he offered since my system wasn't "self running". The fact that Mylow's wasn't either, apparently didn't bother him.

Here's a "joke" Mylow video. I'm not afraid to show you mine..... so show us yours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvpTXdWAd1M

[rickfriedrich]

As for the amount of time I spend on talking about battery management it can be 1 to 2 hours. So no, I don't rush past that part, it is one of the most important things to get right. People bring their meters from all over the world to put on the batteries or in series with them. You can do whatever you want. I spend a lot of time going over the ways to improve the efficiency of the output just as I go over the ways to extend the life of your batteries. All you want to do is evaluate these things from one angle or one method. And that is fine for you. But if your meters show zero volts across a bulb and zero amps in series to that bulb will you stay around to notice the light on? In the same way a battery can show little or no amps in series with the output while running, and yet be able to be charged up faster and do a lot more work than what was shown by a meter to have gone into the battery. This is basic stuff here and was all people were doing on the old SG groups. And while more batteries, and larger batteries were added to the output the amount of power to be taken from these same charged batteries was proportionally more than if a smaller battery was charged instead (even when nothing else changed on the input). Thus something different was taking place than normal. And I go into details about how people get easily mistaken when voltages can rise fast with sulfated batteries. To do proper testing you need new batteries or rejuvenated batteries or you can get false estimations of efficiency. The real capacity of a battery needs to be determined to properly evaluate these things. From there I explain how to increase the efficiency of the output with the right method of charging and battery resting and rotation. It can take an hour to go over all these things. In the end we are not looking at the direct output into the battery while it is charging but the output of the batteries that have been charged into the real world. That is the real output, not the internal measurements before the charging is complete. This is where people make the mistake. Like I said, I don't care what you conclude on my boat measuring it while I'm on lake CDA driving around. At the end of the day I just rotate the batteries around and you scratch your head in wonder how it can be possible. Yes it doesn't make sense to you and without seeing it you assume the worst. I'm not sure if I can fault you for assuming it when there has indeed been so much ignorance and fraud in this "free energy" world. I'm grieved by that and am just doing what I can to promote what I know. I'm years beyond these basic arguments personally and I sometimes forget that people are still not even at first base in this. My meetings and time are not about trying to prove these basic first steps so I am sorry for the way this dialogue has progressed. I figured it is now common knowledge and that we were beyond all that. And I assumed that on Overunity most people would be beyond these things. Anyway, we do have a few parts of the meeting where people can see and measure for themselves to their own satisfaction. There you will be able to put your meter showing zero volts and amps. This is not my part. I can't explain that myself and stand just as amazed. So if meters can't show a measurable input then we have a system that is outside of that box we have been in for the last 150 years or so. The box is real and predictable and useful for charging people money for energy, but when the walls come down to Nature and people understand how to tap into it, then they can become a little freer indeed...

Rick:

I ain't living in no slave box.  I have given you my opinions and you should take them to heart.  From what I have seen, for years you have been "playing the electronics guy" like some character in a commercial.  You know, "I am not a doctor, but I play one on TV."  A person that has no knowledge about electronics can go to your conference, meet you, and think you are the real thing.  Meanwhile I could be standing next to the two of you listening to what you have to say and almost freaking out at the words that are actually coming out of your mouth.

How do you measure the power output into the charging battery only using the basic stuff that you typically have on any experimenter's bench?

I bet that you can't answer that question.  And that highlights the contrasts:  You have been pitching the "wonders of pulse motors" for seven or eight years and you don't even know how to measure the output power.  Chances are the only thing that you can do is tell your customers to measure the charging battery voltage from time to time.  And of course, that doesn't even answer the question.

MileHigh

[ramset]

Gentlemen
It sounds like we need to muster an investigation  crew for this show,or at the very least
validate this very important Claim !


respectfully
Chet

[memoryman]

Rich, claiming that what meters show or don't is proof, is false.
You would need at least a 'scope to see what is happening and preferable more equipment.
And the batteries will have to go through longer term tests to discover what effect there is.
Do you have any results that you can share?

[MileHigh]

Rick:

But if your meters show zero volts across a bulb and zero amps in series to that bulb will you stay around to notice the light on?

For this example you are citing, did you connect an oscilloscope across the bulb and across a current sensing resistor?

In the same way a battery can show little or no amps in series with the output while running, and yet be able to be charged up faster and do a lot more work than what was shown by a meter to have gone into the battery.

Your sentence is ambiguous.  If you are making a point about something that you allege is out of the ordinary, back it up with a full description and data.  What's very tiring is the "vague claim" business.

And while more batteries, and larger batteries were added to the output the amount of power to be taken from these same charged batteries was proportionally more than if a smaller battery was charged instead (even when nothing else changed on the input). Thus something different was taking place than normal.

Same comments as above.  You have been playing with pulse motors, batteries, and energy for six or seven years.  I don't believe that you can't articulate a claim that "something different was taking place than normal" without having what you are stating not make logical sense with a complete, clear description of what you are talking about.  Plus I expect you to back it up with data.

That is the real output, not the internal measurements before the charging is complete. This is where people make the mistake.

Here is where you are making a mistake.  If you pulse charge a battery and measure that input energy, then the energy that you can extract from the battery will be less.  This assumes multiple test cycles to show solid, verifiable data.

The problem is that you have never measured the energy going into the charging battery in the first place.  So when you do load tests to measure the output energy you don't know for yourself when you talk about the "real output" because you don't even know the input.

At the end of the day I just rotate the batteries around and you scratch your head in wonder how it can be possible. Yes it doesn't make sense to you and without seeing it you assume the worst.

It makes perfect sense to me that when you run your boat motor that some recharging takes place.  Why should I wonder when I have been talking about measuring the recharging power?  Burn that straw man.  Do you have to be "pressed to the wall" to concede that you can't swap boat batteries indefinitely?  You are just doing the 10-coiler-powering-a-house lie again.  Yes I am talking tough because for the second time you are talking about your electric boat without giving any details or data and I already pressed you on that.

In the middle of the night, you sneak into the marina with an extension cord and do your dirty work.

So if meters can't show a measurable input then we have a system that is outside of that box we have been in for the last 150 years or so.

I can imagine a hypothetical scenario.  You play the "Big Dummy."   You are powering a bulb with very very short high-voltage medium-current pulses and you connect a analog voltmeter across the bulb and it shows zero volts.  You put the same meter in series and it shows no amps.

Ha! Ha! The Big Dummy connected an analog meter up to a train of very very narrow voltage and current pulses and the meter showed nothing but the light bulb lit up.  The Big Dummy is a carnival barker for sure.

MileHigh