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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on February 07, 2015, 04:35:47 PM
Hi MileHigh,

I personally think that many people "Learned" a Lot from the Rosemary Ainslie experiments. So speaking about this in a bad way is not really what I would call good Karma.
Well they learned that she admitted presenting one circuit in a demonstration video and later when the circuit was proven to be different by Poynt99 she claimed that her deception was deliberate.  They learned that the circuit she presented in the "Quantum Magazine" article that she described as the "exact circuit" used to produce her claimed ~6% duty cycle at 2400Hz was incapable of doing so.  They learned that she was unable to reproduce her own oscilloscope shots taking measurements in her circuits at the test points she claimed.  They learned that even when she admitted that her published papers were based on false statements and withdrew those papers that a few months later without any evidence in her favor, she reversed her position.  So what did they learn or what could they have learned?  They could have learned that there are people who make boisterous claims, don't have a clue what they are looking at, and get so tied-up in their claims that they knowingly tell lies to try and keep the claims alive.
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I don't disagree with what you're saying, yes I have seen those spikes already, my Bedini Years if you like. There is something different to these Spikes/Ringing. I am sure TK would agree here. He did say that the Amplitude was unexpected.
They were unexpected only by the seat of his pants.    The circuit behavior conforms to the junky flyback design that it is.
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Inductive Spikes Bedini Style are different. A few hundred Volts, not a few thousand like has been shown.
They have these things called "ignition coils".  They generate up to 100kV (but more typically 30kV) from 12V without difficulty thousands of times per minute.  The Bedini circuits I have seen have all been very crude affairs.
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Ask your self, Conventionally, what happens to Two Coils when they have opposing Magnetic Fields, what happens to the Coils? What changes?
Linear superposition happens.  Your transformer only bucking arrangement essentially connects two like windings in parallel, then breaks one of the connections and places a load between the two nodes that ideally track identically leaving no: difference voltage across the load, no current through the load, and no power transferred to the load.  Only differences in turn ratios and/or parasitics result in anything that can convey even a small fraction of the input power to the load.  Your:  "Now it's a low-side MOSFET flyback, no now it's a low-side BJT flyback" changes things by placing one secondary in series with the primary through the output diode.  Aside from the parasitics, that establishes a difference voltage across the load branch that mirrors the voltage across the flyback primary.  The parasitics sap energy away that could have gone to the load.  The greater your "necessary" parasitics such as leakage inductance, and parasitic capacitance the lower the percentage input power goes to your 10 Ohm load.
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Opposing Magnetic Fields from a Set of Coils, I can guarantee will yield results that many here can not yet understand the possibilities! I promise you of this!
For the many who have little or no education in electronics or physics, that may be true.  For those who are trained, no you have not demonstrated anything unusual.
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Regards

  Chris

P.S: There was no new Goose to chase when the Wright Brothers attempted first flight either, but History has shown that it was worth while perusing!!!
The Wright brothers were genuine technologists.  They conducted themselves as something other than carnival barkers.

EMJunkie

Quote from: MileHigh on February 07, 2015, 07:05:13 PM
The arrogance is actually on your side.

You go into a shoemaker, do you harangue him and tell him he doesn't know how to make shoes?

Who are you to say "arrogance" when you make that statement from a position of abject ignorance?  You have to be pretty arrogant to try to dictate to a bunch of people that they don't know what they are talking about when you yourself don't know what you are talking about.

MileHigh, Did I hurt your feelings? It actually was not meant for you  ;)

You're not arrogant, just stubborn. I am ok with that  ;)


MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on February 07, 2015, 06:05:24 PM
Farmhand, well TK is lighting some 20 Neon's with it, so does it "Do" anything, I would have to say yes, of course.

Has anyone included this HV Output in the Output Calculations we obtained earlier on? No! Prior we had 0.68 just across the resistor. We have High Voltage from the VE 0 Terminal to the Test Point A in TK's Diagram. This Power is not included in the Power measurement across the Load resistor, no one can see this! As soon as the Transistor it "Off" then the HV becomes visible!

I have, and tried to show this inclusion but this has been disputed and thrown out because no one can see this Power, all be it, High Voltage

I ask again, What does a Bucking Field do? What influence on an External Field can this have?

  Chris
As I have shown:  The bucking secondary coils add parasitics that make the circuit less efficient than if the load branch simply returned to Vsupply.  Your scheme is a junky flyback.

EMJunkie

Quote from: MarkE on February 07, 2015, 07:07:01 PM
Well they learned that she admitted presenting one circuit in a demonstration video and later when the circuit was proven to be different by Poynt99 she claimed that her deception was deliberate.  They learned that the circuit she presented in the "Quantum Magazine" article that she described as the "exact circuit" used to produce her claimed ~6% duty cycle at 2400Hz was incapable of doing so.  They learned that she was unable to reproduce her own oscilloscope shots taking measurements in her circuits at the test points she claimed.  They learned that even when she admitted that her published papers were based on false statements and withdrew those papers that a few months later without any evidence in her favor, she reversed her position.  So what did they learn or what could they have learned?  They could have learned that there are people who make boisterous claims, don't have a clue what they are looking at, and get so tied-up in their claims that they knowingly tell lies to try and keep the claims alive.They were unexpected only by the seat of his pants.    The circuit behavior conforms to the junky flyback design that it is.They have these things called "ignition coils".  They generate up to 100kV (but more typically 30kV) from 12V without difficulty thousands of times per minute.  The Bedini circuits I have seen have all been very crude affairs.Linear superposition happens.  Your transformer only bucking arrangement essentially connects two like windings in parallel, then breaks one of the connections and places a load between the two nodes that ideally track identically leaving no: difference voltage across the load, no current through the load, and no power transferred to the load.  Only differences in turn ratios and/or parasitics result in anything that can convey even a small fraction of the input power to the load.  Your:  "Now it's a low-side MOSFET flyback, no now it's a low-side BJT flyback" changes things by placing one secondary in series with the primary through the output diode.  Aside from the parasitics, that establishes a difference voltage across the load branch that mirrors the voltage across the flyback primary.  The parasitics sap energy away that could have gone to the load.  The greater your "necessary" parasitics such as leakage inductance, and parasitic capacitance the lower the percentage input power goes to your 10 Ohm load.For the many who have little or no education in electronics or physics, that may be true.  For those who are trained, no you have not demonstrated anything unusual.The Wright brothers were genuine technologists.  They conducted themselves as something other than carnival barkers.

MarkE Holland Duell?

MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on February 07, 2015, 06:36:07 PM
In an attempt to curb Arrogance:
An alleged attributed quote:  That's nice.  So you're point is: that if someone had said something in or out of a particular context, you can use that thing that they might have said in any context you choose to try and establish that the thing you have not established they said in any context was arrogant.