Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[TinselKoala]

Suppose someone presents to you a scopeshot like the one below, with no other information, and claims that it shows a voltage and a current trace from some unspecified device. No, not even which trace is which is included in the presentation. No circuitry, no probe connection points, no value of a current viewing resistor, if any, and even much less information than is displayed on my shot below. You don't even know if one trace represents an input and the other an output. It's clear from the scopeshot though, that a trace multiplication of the displayed traces would produce an entirely _negative_ power trace, if the traces are taken as indicating current and voltage, since at every time sample a negative number is being multiplied by a positive number, yielding a negative number as a result.  Do you accept this as evidence that all power is being sent back to the source? With only the scopeshot itself as "evidence" ?  Say the person who presented the original shot tells you that V and I are "in phase" when clearly they are not. What do you conclude?

(Just so you know: this scopeshot was produced using _only_ a signal generator, no external circuitry _at all_. So you already know more about it than is known about the originally presented trace.)

[poynt99]

What do you conclude?

That I need to have a few more beer (or hoots on my pipe) so I too can appreciate the wisdom and significance of those claims. 

[EMJunkie]

Hey Cris
two weeks before, I made a setup similar to the one posted by SkyWatcher123
and yes, with similar results.
The issue is I do not have precision instruments, so cannot make accurate measurements.
Nevertheless,  there is no change at input with or without load, which is amazing !

Encouraged, I am setting another setup and will try to send it via ordinary mail, to any expert from this forum residing in Europe, (preferably in Spain)

Attached a pic of the mentioned setup, and a schematic of the next one.
cheers
Alvaro

@Alvaro

Very Nice Work!

Some advice - Loose the CFL and go with NON Inductive Resistors. Makes life so much easier!

Very nice though - How easy is it to get some results?

For the moment, don't worry about Measurements! Just learn the device, what it likes and doesn't like.

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

[EMJunkie]

Suppose someone presents to you a scopeshot like the one below, with no other information, and claims that it shows a voltage and a current trace from some unspecified device. No, not even which trace is which is included in the presentation. No circuitry, no probe connection points, no value of a current viewing resistor, if any, and even much less information than is displayed on my shot below. You don't even know if one trace represents an input and the other an output. It's clear from the scopeshot though, that a trace multiplication of the displayed traces would produce an entirely _negative_ power trace, if the traces are taken as indicating current and voltage, since at every time sample a negative number is being multiplied by a positive number, yielding a negative number as a result.  Do you accept this as evidence that all power is being sent back to the source? With only the scopeshot itself as "evidence" ?  Say the person who presented the original shot tells you that V and I are "in phase" when clearly they are not. What do you conclude?

(Just so you know: this scopeshot was produced using _only_ a signal generator, no external circuitry _at all_. So you already know more about it than is known about the originally presented trace.)

@TinselKoala and PotHead99

Leave the thread, you have been asked nicely already.

Your are not welcome nor wanted!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

[TinselKoala]

Ordinary 1.2V PNP Joule Thief draws LESS current, or nearly the same, when 24 LED load is CONNECTED, and draws MORE current when load is DISCONNECTED:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLsOCYPCvGc

Now I can haz cheezburger?

Nevertheless,  there is no change at input with or without load, which is amazing !

Yes, amazing ... except when I do it. Then it's just something you can ignore or insult me about.