Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

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Tinman your inner windings are they wound as in fig.1 or fig.2

I think his winding is equivalent to current loops shown in Fig.1 and Fig.2

[Magluvin]

Hey Tin. Have you shorted the inner coil and no effect on the outer coil input?

Im just imagining the mag field flow in the core created by the inner coil when current flows. The inner core, inside the inner coil, would have field flowing around one direction and the outer part of the core, outside of the inner coil, would flow the other way. So it would seem that the core as a whole would be hiding the fact that there is an inner coil loaded or not. Like it is just a normal core whether the inner coil is loaded or not due to a kind of balancing in the core. Half has field going one way and the other half field going the other way, so when the outer coil magnetizes the core, the core is not really biased by the inner coil field. If so, this should be good.

Mags

[picowatt]

Tinman,

Very interesting...

I hope you will make a video of the "drive one of the inner coils as a primary" test you mentioned.  That might prove interesting (with and without a load on the outer windings).

Did you happen to do any control experiments of the inner toroid and its windings before you applied the outer potting? 
Performing the "one winding of the inner coil as a primary test" before and after potting might prove interesting.

Any idea what specific ferrite material the inner core is made from?

Can you post the actual product/model number of the Devcon product you used?  A quick look indicated there are at least 4 different liquid or putty steel products in their lineup.  The link you provided says "steel putty" as opposed to their liquid steel products.  Was the product you used "putty" or "liquid"?

I wonder if molding a somewhat hollow two piece toroid that can be slipped over the inner toroid might produce similar results.  I recall someone doing something similar with toroid "hemispheres" welded together over an inner core (possibly someone with better memory than I can better recall that experiment).

Thanks for sharing...
PW   

[tinman]

Hey Tin. Have you shorted the inner coil and no effect on the outer coil input?

Im just imagining the mag field flow in the core created by the inner coil when current flows. The inner core, inside the inner coil, would have field flowing around one direction and the outer part of the core, outside of the inner coil, would flow the other way. So it would seem that the core as a whole would be hiding the fact that there is an inner coil loaded or not. Like it is just a normal core whether the inner coil is loaded or not due to a kind of balancing in the core. Half has field going one way and the other half field going the other way, so when the outer coil magnetizes the core, the core is not really biased by the inner coil field. If so, this should be good.

Mags

I have not tried a direct short Mags,but when the globe is applied as a load,it dose indeed reflect apon the P/in-but only by 50%(there abouts)So if i draw 1 watt from the inner coil,the P/in rises by 1/2 watt. I will try a dead short today throughout my testing.

[tinman]

Tinman,

Very interesting...





I wonder if molding a somewhat hollow two piece toroid that can be slipped over the inner toroid might produce similar results.  I recall someone doing something similar with toroid "hemispheres" welded together over an inner core (possibly someone with better memory than I can better recall that experiment).

Thanks for sharing...
PW   

I hope you will make a video of the "drive one of the inner coils as a primary" test you mentioned.  That might prove interesting (with and without a load on the outer windings).

I will be doing that and more today. I will post the video when done.

Did you happen to do any control experiments of the inner toroid and its windings before you applied the outer potting? 
Performing the "one winding of the inner coil as a primary test" before and after potting might prove interesting.

This is one thing i didnt do,and now wish i had done

Any idea what specific ferrite material the inner core is made from?

No idea. There were no numbers or writing on it at all. It was blue in color,and was from a high frequency tig welder circuit board.

Can you post the actual product/model number of the Devcon product you used?  A quick look indicated there are at least 4 different liquid or putty steel products in their lineup.  The link you provided says "steel putty" as opposed to their liquid steel products.  Was the product you used "putty" or "liquid"?

The product in the link is the one i used-steel putty. I just added some metholated spirit's to make it easy to pour. I am now experimenting with embedding resin/ferrite powder,and embedding resin/iron filings for core material.