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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

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Spilled Fluids

Quote from: tinman on July 19, 2015, 06:25:44 AM
And yet if a lifted golf ball is dropped onto steel or concrete,the ball will come to a stop at one point,and then be accelerated in the opposite direction back up to a slightly lower point to that of the first drop height.Not only was energy used to raise the ball,but that same amount of energy was stored at the same time.The energy lost/dissipated was through vibration,sound and air resistance.

The energy to bounce the ball was stored as the center of the ball was compressed. All the original energy from the drop was spent when the ball hit it's lowest point. The new energy from the compression release is what accelerates the ball back up. Some of that energy is lost initially due to heat while the rest is lost due to the items you mention.
So this is really no different than the dropped rock which will also undergo compression and will rebound ever so slightly.

There is no energy gained or created in any of these examples.

In other words there is no complete cycle since neither the rock nor the golf ball can lift themselves back up to their original height.
Gravity is a conservative force and therefore adds no new energy to the process.

MarkE

Quote from: Spilled Fluids on July 19, 2015, 06:22:25 AM
This is why when working around sensitive electronics, one should always be grounded.
I worked on medical monitors at Tektronix and ECG monitors had to be certified double grounded so that any transient static could not find it's way through the patient; it only takes a couple of milliamps of current to put a heart into defib.
Other test equipment from Tektronix is so sensitive to ESD that poorly grounded workers walking by can kill a $10,000. module. 

Years and years ago a German biomedical company made EKG probes that actually pierce the skin so as to get a cleaner, and higher amplitude reading compared to the Ag/AgCl gel probes used in the USA.  Electrocution concerns were highly elevated with their equipment.

tinman

Anyway,for your entertainment SF,we will make the first test very simple.
So carry out the test(in stead of laughing),and explain to us-if not the PM's magnetic field that did more work against the spring,then what was it that did more work against the spring.
If the coil of the electromagnet remains the same,and the applied power to that coil remains the same,then the magnetic field produced by the coil also remains the same.

One complete cycle-power to coil off,spring in resting position.
Power on-electromagnet accelerates toward (test 1) ferromagnetic block,(test 2)PM,work done is recorded by way of LB's on scales.
Power is disconnected from coil,spring returns to starting position.<-- one full cycle.

You may use any material you like for test 1 in place of the ferrite block-->even the material the PM is made from.
But at the end of the test,you must come back and explain as to what it was(if not the PM)that done the extra work against the spring in test 2.

Spilled Fluids

Quote from: MarkE on July 19, 2015, 06:37:09 AM
Other test equipment from Tektronix is so sensitive to ESD that poorly grounded workers walking by can kill a $10,000. module. 

Years and years ago a German biomedical company made EKG probes that actually pierce the skin so as to get a cleaner, and higher amplitude reading compared to the Ag/AgCl gel probes used in the USA.  Electrocution concerns were highly elevated with their equipment.

Most places I work at these days have discharge stations outside the labs and all work benches have grounded/grounding pads on them. Workers are required to wear the appropriate grounding straps on their wrists and at the fuel cell companies even grounding heal pads are worn in areas where an ROE could take place.

tinman

Quote from: Spilled Fluids on July 19, 2015, 06:31:58 AM
The energy to bounce the ball was stored as the center of the ball was compressed. All the original energy from the drop was spent when the ball hit it's lowest point. The new energy from the compression release is what accelerates the ball back up. Some of that energy is lost initially due to heat while the rest is lost due to the items you mention.
So this is really no different than the dropped rock which will also undergo compression and will rebound ever so slightly.

There is no energy gained or created in any of these examples.

In other words there is no complete cycle since neither the rock nor the golf ball can lift themselves back up to their original height.
Gravity is a conservative force and therefore adds no new energy to the process.
You missed the point altogether,but anyway-carry on.