Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[EMJunkie]

To answer that-the egg came before the chicken-->this is a fact.

Hahaha I like it - From prehistoric Chicken? Chickenosaurus?

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   Chris Sykes
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[minnie]

Glorious morning!

[partzman]

Tinman,

Could you post a physical drawings of your 2 cored transformer that would show the start and finish of each winding and the winding directions. Also indicate the electrical connections and the test points used to derive your measurements It doesn't have to be anything fancy, just pencil sketches will work.

IMO, this is important as there may be at least some unusual Lenz interaction with your core arrangement.

What iron source did you use for your castings?

partzman

[tinman]

Tinman,

Could you post a physical drawings of your 2 cored transformer that would show the start and finish of each winding and the winding directions. Also indicate the electrical connections and the test points used to derive your measurements It doesn't have to be anything fancy, just pencil sketches will work.

IMO, this is important as there may be at least some unusual Lenz interaction with your core arrangement.

What iron source did you use for your castings?

partzman

I will get that done for you tomorrow partzman,and post it here.

[MileHigh]

I think that I can see the reason for the higher voltage measurement on the inner secondary as compared to the outer secondary.

Look at the attached diagram.  When the inner secondary and outer secondary are both under load, the red zone is an area of flux cancellation between the inner secondary and the outer secondary.  That means that the outer secondary sees less net flux than the inner secondary and therefore will have less voltage output.   When you change the loading conditions on the inner secondary and the outer secondary then the observed voltages will also change because of what happens in the red zone.

I am going to use "In" and "Out" for a flux direction into the page and out of the page.  We will say that the primary produces flux into the page.  Let's look at the setup under load:

______________ Blue Zone ____________  Red Zone

Primary _________ In ___________________ In

Inner Sec. ______ Out___________________  In

Outer Sec. ______ Out ___________________ Out


You can see how the inner and outer secondaries produce opposite flux to the primary when under load in the blue zone.  This is normal, and how a normal transformer operates.

You can see how the inner and outer secondaries produce opposite flux to each other when under load other in the red zone.  This reduces the voltage output on the secondary.

In addition, for a normal transformer setup (blue zone only) under load, the inner secondary "Out" flux and the outer secondary "Out" flux compete with each other for the available "In" flux from the primary.  The values of the load resistors and the number of turns in each coil and the wire resistance of each coil are factors that determine the output voltages on the two secondaries.

So a more exhaustive investigation is required to do this experiment properly.  Also, using LEDs for a "quick and dirty" check of what's going on is fine, but they should NEVER be used for any serious investigation along these lines because they are NON LINEAR devices and will throw a monkey wrench into all of your measurements and investigations.  Using ordinary LINEAR resistors with no FWBR and varying the values of the load resistors is the way to go.