Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[conradelektro]

I did a careful analysis of the electrical energy (see attached drawing and scope shots)

- Watt1, going from the Function Generator into the whole circuit (coil H1 and resistor R1)

- Watt2, going through the resistor R1 and

- Watt3, going through the coil H1 (primary of the partnered coil).

A person wanting to prove OU in "partnered output coils" would be interested in Watt3 (energy put in through the primary H1).

Note, the resistor R1 (100 Ohm shunt) could be 1 Ohm or even 0.1 Ohm if one uses an Audio Amplifier instead of the Function Generator (in order to send several Watt through primary H1, which I will do soon).


Analysis at 50 Hz (10 V peak to peak sine wave or AC from the Function Generator):

V1eff = 2.3 V , I1eff = V1eff / R1 = 2.3 / 100 = 23 mA , V2eff = 2.3 V, ϴ= 3°

Watt1 = V2eff * I1eff = 53 mW

Watt2 = V1eff * I1eff = 53 mW

Watt3 = (V2eff - V1eff) * I1eff * cos(ϴ) = ~ 0  mW  (coil H1 has no inductance at 50 Hz, 23 mA, needs more Ampere, output from H2 + H3 through R2 is ~ 0 mW, measurement not shown)


Analysis at 1000 Hz (10 V peak to peak sine wave or AC from the Function Generator):

V1eff = 1.5 V , I1eff = V1eff / R1 = 1.5 / 100 = 15 mA , V2eff = 3 V, ϴ= 53°

Watt1 = V2eff * I1eff = 45 mW

Watt2 = V1eff * I1eff = 22,5 mW

Watt3 = (V2eff - V1eff) * I1eff * cos(ϴ) = 1.5 * 15 * 0.6 = 13,5 mW (output from H2 + H3 through R2 is ~1.4 mW, measurement not shown)


Analysis at 2000 Hz (10 V peak to peak sine wave or AC from the Function Generator):

V1eff = 1 V , I1eff = V1eff / R1 = 1 / 100 = 10 mA , V2eff = 3.3 V, ϴ= 68°

Watt1 = V2eff * I1eff = 33 mW

Watt2 = V1eff * I1eff = 10 mW

Watt3 = (V2eff - V1eff) * I1eff * cos(ϴ) = 2.3 * 10 * 0.37 = 8,5 mW (output from H2 + H3 through R2 is ~0.14 mW, measurement not shown)


Remark: In this set up the output is highest (about 1,4 mW) at around 2000 Hz. I know one has to put more Watt (instead of Milliwatt) through the primary of the "partnered output coills". This is just a test to develop a reliable measurement method. A "real test" will be done with an Audio Amplifier instead of the Function Generator. The shunt R1 will be 10 Ohm in order to put around 4 to 8 Watt through the primary H1 of the "partnered output coils. And this measurement method will be used.

Please look at this measurement method and let me know if I did something wrong. The idea is to eventually come up with a reliable and useful measurement method, which we all can accept.

Greetings, Conrad

P.S.: you can see the test set up here http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg435506/#msg435506

[John.K1]

Well,I have just spend couple hours looking at the Kunel's patent I have made a time ago. Input from my SG through the opto-couple  one IRFP460 Mosfet and 12V car bulb directly to the pulsing (shielding) coil and I have used several ferite  magnets
  Three or four hours no fun at all. Than I have put the cap across the input coil to make it behave as resonate circuit. On the scope shot I could recognize some  artifacts  after the rising edge - not ringing it was like like 5 small SQR waves of the same magnitude)- it's frequency measured around 1.4Mhz and I could see it on output too as a ringing. If that would be on ferite bar I would say it is ferromagnetic resonance. But I have used transformer lamination and I am not sure if that has also some sort of such resonance. Or ,it was ferite magnet itself? Anyway, when I tuned my SG to that frequency, the burst of energy and light made my device dead. And because I am sick of it for today I will investigate the damage tomorrow

[TinselKoala]

Yes, on the lowpass filter, that's very clear in every frequency-sweep comparison, like Itsu's and my own. I see some interesting stuff _below_ the filter's effective cutoff frequency range. It's also interesting when a resonant condition is found.

I'll comment on Conrad's setup after I've had a cup of coffee.

[conradelektro]

I found, that at 4.3 MHz there is a maximum output of 3.1 mW


Input analysis at 4.3 MHz Hz (10 V peak to peak sine wave or AC from the Function Generator):

V1eff = 0.9 V , I1eff = V1eff / R1 = 0.9 / 100 = 9 mA , V2eff = 0.9 V, ϴ= 0°

Watt1 = V2eff * I1eff = 8.1 mW

Watt2 = V1eff * I1eff = 8.1 mW

Watt3 = (V2eff - V1eff) * I1eff * cos(ϴ) is ~0 mW (output from H2 + H3 through R2 is ~3.1 mW, measurement not shown)

See the circuit diagram at http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg435839/#msg435839

There is not inductance at this frequency, it seems to be a 4.3 MHz radio wave transmission from coil H1 to the coils H2 + H3. The core is only rated up to 25 kHz, therefore 4.3 MHz can not excite it.

Greetings

[TinselKoala]

Conrad's setup looks good for measuring the input power to the primary coil. But I'm not sure about the "Watt1" (total from FG)  computation since it includes the inductance of the primary coil, not just the purely resistive component across the current-sense resistor. Is there some phase difference to be accounted for there?

The total power in the coil itself, "Watt3", I think is calculated correctly.

Let's please hear MileHigh's analysis of this.  And please STOP dissing MH! He is a strong contributor of constructive criticism and it doesn't matter if he's not actually experimenting at the moment. His knowledge, experience and opinions are very valuable in this discussion.

When Conrad measures the output of the partner coils, does he disconnect the probes completely from the primary side? I'm not sure if this matters, but remember the probe reference leads are likely to be connected together in the scope itself. It would also be good to know if the FG's "black" or ground lead is connected internally and through the mains to the scope probe references. Measuring the input as he has shown, it won't matter if the FG is fully isolated or not, but when measuring the output it might matter.


My own testbed is using a 4.7 ohm precision non-inductive resistor in the place of Conrad's R1, and a 0.47 ohm carbon resistor in series with the R2 100 ohm carbon load resistor for monitoring current on the load (output) side.  I also have the bipolar push-pull current amplifier between the FG and the primary coil. Other than that I'm doing the same thing as Conrad (except I only have 40 turns on the primary, and of course I have the Secret of DPDT so that I can flip the connection polarity of the partnered coil that does not have the primary overwound on it.)