Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[synchro1]

Syncro
People doing over unity experiments here have requested MileHigh's help.

I believe OU is not outside the overall World of possibility! I also believe experimentors like Conradelectro deserve a theory to help explain OU effects that are not part of a chronic syndrome of relentless skepticisem involving nothing but testing error. This is called "Optimisem"! Everyone gets sick to death of those "pessimistic cranks".

[picowatt]

This is indeed confusing. The probes are connected so as to provide essentially a "differential" measurement of the voltage across R1. Why would this not be a valid current measurement?

Hmm.... at these frequencies with a nice sinusoidal waveform, an ordinary DMM connected inline will usually provide quite accurate measurements of average current, won't it?

TK,

Look at Conrad's post.  Vr is the voltage across the 100R resistor.  Vh is the voltage across the coil primary. 

Vr is only needed to calculate current through the 100R and the primary.  I do believe his voltages are RMS as he stated that his FG was outputting 10Vpp.  The voltage measured at the FG side of the 100R is in line with the RMS of that 10Vpp value (but then again, maybe the 10Vpp was open circuit...  hopefully Conrad will let us know if these are RMS measurements).

Anyway, I believe he made an error in his Pin calculations by using the Vdrop across the 100R (Vr) instead of using the voltage across the primary (Vh) in his Pin calculations (which would then make Pin around 7mw). 

What he appears to have calculated is the power dissipated by the 100R, not the Pin to the transformer.

See what you think...

PW

[Void]

Also, your frequency is rather high.  That can induce phase shifts that just might be different from the
"real" phase shift so you have to be careful about that. 
MileHigh

Hi MileHigh. I know what you mean about how ferrite cores can introduce odd phase shifts at higher frequencies.
I have seen this many times.  If I am measuring such a phase shift at a frequency where the ferrite core is altering the phase,
shouldn't that still be an actual phase shift that the function generator is seeing? What I mean is, from experience I understand that
such phase shifts introduced by ferrite cores at certain frequencies often do not seem to represent the true phase shift in the circuit,
as  I have seen some really odd phase shifts that don't seem to make sense, but how can the ferrite core add in phase shift that is
measurable, but it is not really representative of the actual phase shift that the function generator sees?
If I measure whatever phase shift, isn't that phase shift really actually there? How can you know when you can trust a phase shift
measurement and when you can't? Are the odd phase shifts due to power reflecting back to the function generator (or whatever you are
using for a driver) because of an impedance mismatch? In other words is this due to significant reflected power, or what exactly causes it?

Regarding my scope, I have a stand alone DSO. It has a USB connector on it which allows me to save data sample
files and scope screen shots to a USB flash drive. I can then take the USB flash drive over to my computer and load the
files saved on the flash drive.

All the best...

[synchro1]

Let's not forget the real issue:  You are abusive towards me and you are harassing me and you have been doing it for more than a year.  Stop it and the problem goes away.  Or you may find yourself like Wilby, kicked off of the forum because you deserve to be kicked off of the forum because of your behaviour.  It's time for you to act like a self-respecting grown man.

@MileHigh,

Everyone knows you're even worse then me. You caused me to retaliate against your abuse. You forced me to fight fire with fire.

[MarkE]

Hi MileHigh. I know what you mean about how ferrite cores can introduce odd phase shifts at higher frequencies.
I have seen this many times.  If I am measuring such a phase shift at a frequency where the ferrite core is altering the phase,
shouldn't that still be an actual phase shift that the function generator is seeing? What I mean is, from experience I understand that
such phase shifts introduced by ferrite cores at certain frequencies often do not seem to represent the true phase shift in the circuit,
as  I have seen some really odd phase shifts that don't seem to make sense, but how can the ferrite core add in phase shift that is
measurable, but it is not really representative of the actual phase shift that the function generator sees?
If I measure whatever phase shift, isn't that phase shift really actually there? How can you know when you can trust a phase shift
measurement and when you can't? Are the odd phase shifts due to power reflecting back to the function generator (or whatever you are
using for a driver) because of an impedance mismatch? In other words is this due to significant reflected power, or what exactly causes it?

Regarding my scope, I have a stand alone DSO. It has a USB connector on it which allows me to save data sample
files and scope screen shots to a USB flash drive. I can then take the USB flash drive over to my computer and load the
files saved on the flash drive.

All the best...

A good function generator behaves like an ideal voltage source behind a 50 Ohm resistor.  If the impedance of your circuit is much greater than 50 Ohms then only a small portion of the phase shift will appear at the function generator output.