Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[Magluvin]

Was just looking through the Utkin paper.  This pic below caught my eye.

There may be a need for a 3rd coil to get a desired effect.  There may be nothing special about just 2 opposing coils alone.

Mags

[MileHigh]

Zero volts AC across the output coils you say?

What if I proved you wrong.

I am still waiting for you to prove me wrong.   Linking to a Joe Blow video proves nothing.

[TinselKoala]

I am still waiting for you to prove me wrong.   Linking to a Joe Blow video proves nothing.

Especially when the video doesn't even support the claim!

[Pirate88179]

While I might disagree slightly with the first part.... in principle this statement goes to the "nut" of the matter. A claimant MUST provide sufficient detail, with sufficient precision and accuracy, for others to replicate the effects that are claimed to be OU! This means precise details of construction, operation, testing and measurements! Sometimes it even means that the claimant has to present the _actual apparatus_ for independent testing.

And this is why I often make the point that the only thing preventing proper evaluation of claims like EMJ's, and others, is the _attitude of the claimant_. If the claimant is non-cooperative, then there is little we can do at our remote locations, except fiddle around blowing out components, connecting things in different ways, even failing good equipment by connecting it to bogus circuitry whose operating parameters are left as a mystery for us to decode. 

Don't worry though. In this case it has already become clear that the claimant _cannot_ produce his own evidence for any OU or even unusual behaviour from his system... he's hoping someone else can do it for him, based on his shadowy "theory" which does not even rise to the level of a coherent conjecture.

Those of us who are proceeding with builds and experimentation are just doing it for the lulz, evidently.


Let me offer a simple suggestion. Before you go out and buy a dedicated audio amplifier, or heaven forbid, you try this "stuff" with your good stereo system, build up the four-dollar push-pull circuit I have posted several times. Save yourself some money, and _if_ you should blow something with that circuit, it will only be a 75 cent transistor or a 50 cent op-amp chip. Plus you just may learn something useful in the process. The circuit is limited to 15V p-p because of the op-amp. If you need to put more than 1A at 15v p-p, you can just sub in some different transistors by the painful and complicated process of _unplugging the old ones and plugging in the new ones_.

The circuit works just fine from DC to much higher frequencies than any audio amplifier will reach, with sine or square wave input from your signal source.
The images below show, on the left oscilloscope, the _raw signal from the FG_, by direct patchcord connection from the FG's output in parallel to the signal supplied to the op-amp Pin3 input of the circuit. The right oscilloscope shows the output of the push-pull circuit as voltage drop across a 4.7 ohm 1 percent precision noninductive resistor in series with the primary coil of my testbed, with the "partnered" coils set in bucking mode by the DPDT switch.  Both scopes are set at 1v/div (RH scope direct no attenuation, LH scope using 10x atten probe). The FG is set to produce a sine or square wave at 40 kHz. The power supply is providing -7.5V - 0 - +7.5V to the push-pull board, so there is quite a bit of "headroom" left, that is by turning up the FG output you will get proportionally more output to the coil, of course.

I think this also means that the claimant should probably not disassemble the "working" device and throw it away.  Once I saw this, I knew Chris was full of crap.  Not that I didn't know earlier but...that right there says it all to me.

We have seen this many times before...sadly. 

"I got 1.7% O.U.!!!"

Can we see your device? 

"No, sorry, once it worked, I took it apart and threw it away."

To his credit..at least he didn't say that the MIB broke into his home and took the device.  Not yet anyway.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

Exactly.

As I've said before, who takes apart a "working" OU device that's made from a few dollars worth of commercial off the shelf components?

Only someone who doesn't want it to be properly tested for some reason.

In fact the claimant should be doing what LTseung did when he thought he had the OU JT circuit: Make up a bunch of them, confirm they work as you think, then send them out for free to everybody you can think of, so that they can be independently tested!