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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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TinselKoala

QuoteIsn't it amazing how TK suddenly can read a scope shot? Gee he must be an amazing techy! WOW!
How about answering the questions I raised? Can you bestir yourself to do that? Or is it easier for you just to insult me?

EMJunkie

@TinselKoala

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 04, 2015, 12:59:33 AM
I see that EMJ's "goodbye" was premature. He has come back and posted a scopeshot (three, of the same signal at different resolutions). How he gets a pulsed signal from DC input he does not explain, he has not included a schematic with measurement points, just the scopeshot of output, nothing for input beyond the statement of DC input at . Agreed? No, not without some instrumental evidence. How do you get a pulsed output from a DC input?

Please examine these shots carefully, and you may notice some interesting things. Compare the actual _traces_ to what the "numbers in boxes" say. Do a ballpark calculation of average power based on the traces themselves. 

Bear in mind that the Hantek CC-65 current probe is set to provide 1 mV output for 10 mA sensed current. Is the channel "probe attenuation" setting set properly for this current probe? Does it matter? The Owon scope channel input defaults to 10x input when the scope is turned on (manual for scope attached below). Do you mentally multiply the trace readings shown by 10 to get the actual current value, or do you read the displayed mV as the mA value directly?

http://www.hantek.com/en/ProductDetail_15_77.html

Is the Hantek probe accurate?

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/dc-current-clamp-or-multimeter-adaptor-advice/msg444607/#msg444607

Oh, sorry.... we are not going into measurement debate, are we.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2760.msg45423#msg45423

Even "if" my measurements were, or are wrong, (and they are not) I still get more Output that you do!!! Every single day of the week! - I have much better than this too!

Sorry Pal, but its true! Even if those here, and at OUR Forum, do the figures (Not taking into account the Spikes) then its still a damn site more Output, than You are getting!!! My friendly little Guru  ;)

You've been Refuted Bud Big Time  :)

Have a Nice Day  ;)

TinselKoala

You are seriously deluded.

Remember this diagram posted by Verpies?

Quote from: verpiesYes, a varying magnetic flux (Φ) externally supplied into the common core, will not result in any voltage appearing across winding terminals connected according to Diag.2a and Diag.2b, therefore these configurations are useless as secondary windings of transformers.
However these configurations (Diag.2a and Diag.2b) can be useful as special primary windings capable of creating a magnetic flux that is perpendicular to their axis between them (e.g. as in NMR).
In the diagrams above, the magnetic flux lines represent flux produced by windings operating as primary windings (in other words: windings that are externally supplied with electric current). However, the aforementioned externally supplied flux (e.g. by a 3rd winding) would always have the same direction throughout the core.
Parallel winding connections are not discussed here, but they follow the same principles.

TinselKoala

Quote from: EMJunkie on February 04, 2015, 01:57:20 AM
@TinselKoala

Even "if" my measurements were, or are wrong, (and they are not) I still get more Output that you do!!! Every single day of the week! - I have much better than this too!

Sorry Pal, but its true! Even if those here, and at OUR Forum, do the figures (Not taking into account the Spikes) then its still a damn site more Output, than You are getting!!! My friendly little Guru  ;)

You've been Refuted Bud Big Time  :)

Have a Nice Day  ;)

Until you can prove otherwise by answering the questions, showing your scope's attenuation settings and the calibration of your Hantek probe, I will believe that your current trace is being misinterpreted by you as indicating 10 times more current than is actually flowing in the circuit. And it is obvious that both "RMS" numbers in boxes, as well as the frequency indicated for the Red trace, are wrong.

Not only that but you still have not explained how you get a pulsed waveform from a DC input.

picowatt

Quote from: EMJunkie on February 04, 2015, 01:57:20 AM
@TinselKoala

Even "if" my measurements were, or are wrong, (and they are not) I still get more Output that you do!!! Every single day of the week! - I have much better than this too!

Sorry Pal, but its true! Even if those here, and at OUR Forum, do the figures (Not taking into account the Spikes) then its still a damn site more Output, than You are getting!!! My friendly little Guru  ;)

You've been Refuted Bud Big Time  :)

Have a Nice Day  ;)

EMJ,

Regarding the 'scope shots you posted at OUR, is the channel 1 waveform the drive signal to the primary or the signal measured at your 10R load resistor (i.e., is channel 1 indicating the primary input or secondary output signal)?

Similarly, is channel 2 (the current probe) measuring the input current (primary side) or the 10R load current (secondary side)?

ADDED:

I know you stated that these scope shots were from your secondary's output driving 10R, but you also stated you made these tests some time ago.  Is it possible you have your files/tests mixed up?

There is a significant amount of DC offset indicated in both waveforms that is difficult to reconcile with a transformer output.

PW