Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[EMJunkie]

EM Junkie:   Yes there has been a successful replication and it's causing huge controversy on the forums.
It's Clarence's Barbosa Leal replication which is now on energetic forum to get away from the detractors here.
It's also well documented in Patrick Kelly's latest update.
The trick Clarence saw was to reverse wind the amperage coils on two toroids.  SO each Toroid is effectively a partnered output
coil.
The jury is still out on this one and we will probably need another successful replication to run with this one en masse.

Hi a.king21 - I don't have enough proof, but I believe the "Barbosa Leal" device uses the very same principals. This device, has no Lenz's Law and it does it the same ways I have shown. Simply by using more than ONE Output Coil.

On my private forum we are discussing this currently and some of my Team believe the same. Its the same Tech we are working on.

Actually, some of my Team have reproduced the very same Over Unity Results I have been seeing for some time now. Of course you are a member of and already have access to!

I don't have all the answers but I have a good portion of it, which I have already shared here. I cant yet predict the entire set of variables.

Good Luck Guys - ;0)

   Chris

[MileHigh]

Here is a thought experiment for you Chris:

You and your team set up an impressive demo.  It could be with the "partnered output coils" or with a B&L demo where members of your team "have reproduced the very same over unity results."  Then you let someone like TK, or MarkE, or Picowatt or Poynt99 have a go at it and do some serious analysis with a scope and some number crunching.  There is a very very good chance you would see a repeat of what happened here with your bogus circuit and your bogus claims.  All of the members of your team would be in shock when they see how many mistakes they made with respect to their assumptions, their understanding, and their scope measurements.  It would be a jaw-dropping experience for the whole team - another Great Marianas Turkey Shoot.  Heck, chances are even me, an out-of-touch person that hasn't really touched a scope professionally in 24 years now, would be able to find some of the mistakes and pitfalls that led your team to lead themselves down a garden path and arrive at erroneous conclusions.

Like I told you before, you can't pretend to yourself that you know about electronics, you simply can't fake it.  You try to do that in front of a knowledgeable person and you will be spotted in five minutes flat.  You claimed you had many years of experience, but they were "fake years" where you were in your own bubble and stroking yourself.  Then hard reality hit you when you started to debate your circuit on this forum and you encountered some people that really know what they are talking about.

We are simply in search of the truth.  That's the real truth not some kind of "we are an out-of-the-box alternative bunch of guys" truth.  There is only one truth.

MileHigh

[MarkE]

Hi a.king21 - I don't have enough proof, but I believe the "Barbosa Leal" device uses the very same principals. This device, has no Lenz's Law and it does it the same ways I have shown. Simply by using more than ONE Output Coil.

On my private forum we are discussing this currently and some of my Team believe the same. Its the same Tech we are working on.

Actually, some of my Team have reproduced the very same Over Unity Results I have been seeing for some time now. Of course you are a member of and already have access to!

I don't have all the answers but I have a good portion of it, which I have already shared here. I cant yet predict the entire set of variables.

Good Luck Guys - ;0)

   Chris

You still do not seem to graps the fact that Lenz's Law refers only to the orientation of induced voltage.  It is Faraday's Law of induction that describes the circumstances under which induction occurs.  And it occurs independently of whether one has one wire/coil, two, or twenty five, and independently of how they are oriented and/or wired together.

[allcanadian]

@Mark E

You still do not seem to graps the fact that Lenz's Law refers only to the orientation of induced voltage.  It is Faraday's Law of induction that describes the circumstances under which induction occurs.  And it occurs independently of whether one has one wire/coil, two, or twenty five, and independently of how they are oriented and/or wired together.

Unless of course we are speaking of laws not clearly defined nor predicted by Faraday nor Lenz. Are you familiar with the work of Wilhem Weber?, He was a good friend of another gentleman you may have heard of by the name of Carl Gauss. Brilliant men however not quite as popular as Faraday nor Lenz because they had a few disagreements as is often the case.


You see if we are going to talk about electrodynamics then we must consider all the forces involved and not just the one's we might pick and choose. Personally I prefer primary physics based on the primary forces so I might avoid the kind of one dimensional thinking you seem to prescribe to.


However that is neither here nor there and the one question we should be asking ourselves is... how much progress have I made?. You see the great men named above made great progress despite the objections of others and there simplistic one dimensional thinking and so must we.


In any case there seems to be more and more people making claims, more and more people who seem to be doing quite remarkable things. As such I do not think it will be long before you will have your proof. It's called the "exponential growth of knowledge" and it's it waits for no man. Do yourself a favor and google it, read it, then ask yourself where do you think we will be in ten years?. I can say quite confidently that it will not be here... we will do things we cannot imagine.


Don't get me wrong I understand what your saying but I intend to do so much more, I intend to cause a ruckus and you might consider doing the same. life is short my friend and as always it is what we do which defines us not what we say.


AC

[EMJunkie]

Here is a thought experiment for you Chris:

MileHigh, we have debated for months.... Unfortunately a "Thought Experiment" is never going to solve the worlds Problems.

Old People sitting at Home, "Thought Experimenting" are not really something I wish to put my future in...

   Chris