Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[Enjoykin]

I think you meant to say theonion.com.

No you are wrong !! I have said what I want to say !! Got it !! 

[MarkE]

In one day we see pages and pages of posts where  EMJ does little other than hurl insults.  He has made no attempt to rehabilitate Earl Koenig's hapless Mirror Symmetry paper.  That's the paper EMJ posted as supposedly giving support to EMJ's "partnered coil" claims.  Unfortunately for EMJ, Earl Koenig's own test data simply demonstrates what coil winders have known for over 150 years.

Mirror Image Symmetry:

1. A condition midway so divided so that equal portions simultaneously separate in opposite directions as viewed from the neutral location between each half section.

TEST RESULTS

We have tested this design using two identical Guardian 11 HD INT 12VDC solenoids. One solenoid was re wound using mirror image symmetry and the same wire that came on the solenoid. The performance of the solenoid using the mirror image symmetry is outstanding, far beyond the solenoid using conventional windings.


                                     Resistance Inductance    Current         Gauss   Force
                                       (ohms)     (mH)    (Amps @ 5VDC) @ 5VDC   (gms)
Mirror Image Symmetry        2.0       1.08               2.45           121.2    340
Standard Winding                 7.3       4.28               0.68            58.5     169

The results shown above indicate that four times more current can be used to generate a magnetic field with mirror image symmetry winding techniques.
The measured value of magnetic field of the mirror image symmetry configuration, measured at the center of the ends of the solenoid, is double that of the standard winding. The force available with a plunger in the solenoid was also measured to be twice that of the standard configuration.

Another way of looking at the results is to consider the economic advantages of using mirror image symmetry. The data suggest that a device wound with mirror image symmetry can produce the same effects with a greatly reduced amount of wire in a smaller package or produce a device with twice the power in the same size package as currenty available.

Koenig cut the original wire in half:  R_{HALF_WINDING} = 0.5*R_{STANDARD_WINDING}
Koenig wound each of the wire halves onto the original solenoid form: R_{PARALLEL_WINDING} = R_{HALF_WINDING_A} || R_{HALF_WINDING_B} = 0.25*R_{STANDARD_WINDING}
Magnetic field is proportional to the number of turns: N multiplied by the current I. 
I = V/R
I_{PARALLEL_WINDING}/I_{STANDARD_WINDING} = R_{STANDARD_WINDING}/R_{PARALLEL_WINDING} = 4.0
N_{PARALLEL_WINDING}/N_{STANDARD_WINDING} = LENGTH_{PARALLEL_WINDING}/LENGTH_{STANDARD_WINDING} = 0.5
N*I_{PARALLEL_WINDING}/(N*I_{STANDARD_WINDING}) = 4.0 * 0.5 = 2.0
Koenig's measured field and force ratios: 
M_{PARALLEL_WINDING}/M_{STANDARD_WINDING} = 0.01212T/0.00585T = 2.07
F_{PARALLEL_WINDING}/F_{STANDARD_WINDING} = 340g/169g = 2.01

The measured field and force values closely align to the expected results of winding the solenoid with half as many turns of wire, with wire that has twice the area.  Such a coil generates the same magnetic, and power dissipation results when driven at half the voltage of the original.  Koenig simply overdrove the coil and got more field and more force at the expense of power efficiency and heating.  His data did not show value to the "mirror symmetry" that his paper touts.

[Red_Sunset]

Gentlemen,

I see that the 3 musketeers (TK, MarkE & Milehigh) are still at it lockstep.
I am not disputing any of the points presented here, except I see issues with the process on how it is done.

At times we need to learn to accept "NO" for an answer, sit back and re-evaluate.

The cost of effort & desire to achieve an objective over extended periods of time can be so dominant that it disallows to see the wood for the trees.  This should be taken into account during replies. It can be overcome by specific detail questions that refrain from comments that are too general or too vague. A process that applies both ways

PS:  I must give TK credit for a well detail documented rebutal regarding the Koening coil symmetry which was followed up on by MarkE with more details to clarify.

Regards, Red_Sunset

[MarkE]

Perhaps you could identify any post by EMJ since he has returned that:

1) Supports his original refuted claims with any pertinent facts, OR
2) Supports modified claims with any pertinent facts

As occurred before his departure months ago, EMJ's posts are filed with ad hominem attacks and exclaimations but no facts that support his claims.  This latest venture into "Mirrored Symmetry" claims by Earl Koenig actually offers evidence against EMJ's claims.  Curiously, EMJ cited it.

[Pirate88179]

Congratulations on your Copy/Paste! I know its tough for am old Bloke getting these things in there.

P.S: I know, I am fairly hand with a PC from time to time, my training was also a Course at University. I get a lot of Old Blokes ask me how the Copy/Paste is done... 

Err...uuummmm....except that you confuse that feature with the Quote button.  This has been documented and preserved for the record.

75 in your course?

I could take any course, not study, and do better than 75.  I could even take the test for a course in robotics I didn't even take and do better than 75.

No wonder you don't know crap about coils or any other electronics.

Sheesh.

Bill