Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[tinman]

There is nothing special about that toroidal transformer configuration.  That's just more alleged secret sauce and it's quackery.  You just have to look at the transformer to pronounce it "normal."

Ah dont say that MH,i am already half way through building it-->and it's a bitch to wind and grind the ferrite piece in the center so as there is no gap-complete coupling.

I was on my way to my first OU transformer
Still going to finish it-->just so we know and can show the truth.

[EMJunkie]

Could you please change the questions in the poll so people can vote for TK and MarkE separately?

Hey Verpies - Sure thing!

TK Vote coming up next...

All the best

   Chris

[EMJunkie]

So is the toroid core steel or ferrite?
And what dose F-Motor on the drawing mean?.

I believe Clemente Figuera used an Iron Core.

F-Motor? Not sure, can you provide reference?

   Chris

[Red_Sunset]

Poor Thane Heins is still trying to pitch his gross mismeasurement deeds as over unity.  ......................
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There is nothing special about that toroidal transformer configuration.  That's just more alleged secret sauce and it's quackery.  You just have to look at the transformer to pronounce it "normal."

MileHigh,

What would be very beneficial to this forum,  is a detailed technical explanation on exactly the reason why that transformer can not deliver the OU as set out in the initial idea.  The reasons why the EMF flux bypass does not produce the result expected.
A explanation how the transformer is therefore quite similar than a regular transformer.

The same for the phi-Motor, how the feedback torque initiated by the toroid core emf flux affects the rotation of the center magnet rotor.  The flux does not require to escape the toroid to affect the rotation of the rotor. This toroid motor concept preceded all other gnerators and was already build around ~1870 by Zenobe Gramme, a Belgian residing in Paris at the time. The concept was demonstrated at the Vienna trade fair in 1873.

Once that is understood any further argumentation is moot

Red_Sunset

[MarkE]

MileHigh,

What would be very beneficial to this forum,  is a detailed technical explanation on exactly the reason why that transformer can not deliver the OU as set out in the initial idea.  The reasons why the EMF flux bypass does not produce the result expected.
A explanation how the transformer is therefore quite similar than a regular transformer.

1. Energy is conserved.  Induction that involves mechanical motion transfers energy between mechanical and electromagnetic domains.  Induction that involves only changing magnetic fields, IE transformers transforms electrical power from one impedance to another.  Neither conversion process reduces the potential energy of some substance into energy while converting said substance into another substance with lower potential energy.  Ergo the energy out of any induction driven device is limited to the energy in less losses.

2. Thane Heins device is visibly a transformer that has lots and lots of leakage inductance.  That is what is responsible for the nearly 90 degree phase shift of his device.  Phase shifts of nearly 90 degrees mean that there is a very large ratio of reactive to real power, which makes accurate measure of real power and real power efficiency much more difficult than at low phase angles.  Any distortion from a pure sine wave, skew between the voltage and current channels, basic gain, or offset errors in the measurements can throw efficiency measurements way off.

The same for the phi-Motor, how the feedback torque initiated by the toroid core emf flux affects the rotation of the center magnet rotor.  The flux does not require to escape the toroid to affect the rotation of the rotor. This toroid motor concept preceded all other gnerators and was already build around ~1870 by Zenobe Gramme, a Belgian residing in Paris at the time. The concept was demonstrated at the Vienna trade fair in 1873.

See 1.

Once that is understood any further argumentation is moot

Red_Sunset

When it comes to induction machines and the idea of free energy there are two possible routes:

1) Establish that CoE does not always apply, and that some induction machine can violate CoE through reliable measurement.  (Theory is no good because theory says CoE is immutable.) OR
2) Establish that some induction machine consumes an identified fuel source and spent fuel ash, the potential energy difference of which can be shown output from the induction machine.

Either option is a daunting task that has never been successfully executed.