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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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verpies

Quote from: John.K1 on May 08, 2015, 05:05:43 AM
Also, meanwhile I just took a toroid coil and put the compass next to. By applying a small DC voltage 1.5 v @ 0.7 A  I could see some alignment on the compass. Shouldn't be all magnetism inside and invisible to the compass?
In an ideal toroidal inductor - yes.

Must likely your toroidal winding is not even wound the correct manner -  that means an even number of identical back and forth layers (of small circumferential pitch) to avoid non-zero net axial flux.  One layer toroidal winding will always create an axial flux leakage.

John.K1

MH,  Just to give it my thought, imagine that:

From time 0 we start to increase the curent - B field. Becouse the magnetic propagation is slower in the toroid's material, we get temporary "over saturation" of the reagon at some short period, It means the magnetic flux might be outside. As the flux continues through the core the outer flux is decreasing and at the end consumed by the core. Logical? yes/no/maybe?

John.K1

Quote from: verpies on May 08, 2015, 05:16:40 AM
In an ideal toroidal inductor - yes.

Must likely your toroid is not even wound the correct manner -  that means an even number of identical back and forth layers (of small circumferential pitch) to avoid non-zero net axial flux.  One layer toroidal winding will always create an axial flux leakage.

No just 5 turns of thick wire on 40mm OD blue toroid. I  picked small voltage (current) to not over-saturate the core.

verpies

So it is not surprising.

5 turns of thick wire generate a coarse winding of high pitch and one layer winding is incapable of canceling the axial flux leakage in a toroidal arrangement
5 turns might not even span the entire circumference of the toroidal core which leads to leakage as the one depicted in Fig.1.

...and below you can see what happens with a coarse winding:

John.K1

OK :) time for test two, many turnes of  0.25 wire forming one smooth layer on the same toroid. Applied 8.5VDC @0.7 A   Compas moves - aligns.

Just thinking, maybe it is not a right way to test it. It is like bringing small magnet close to the flux which might bond together (drug some flux out)?