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[Dave45]

Here's a clue just for you MH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7PjIAYv8Uk

Now get off your butt and build something.

[EMJunkie]

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/hoopmnst.htm   

A.King21 - This is an excellent experiment. Hooper was without a doubt, way ahead of his time.

Technically this is a good experiment. However, its also confusing. Its also not entirely correct, it is Conventionally Correct, but not correct to the true nature of induction.

For Example: We know that as long as there is a force on the Conductor, and that the force is not uniform in all areas of the conductor, and of course the correct conditions are met, then Charge is Separated. In the Hooper-Monstein Experiment, it does show that there is a lack of cancelation of the force exerted on the wire to Separate Charges!

To explain further, if we take a 1 Meter length of Copper wire (or any Insulated Conductor), this conductor is in a straight line. Now if we take a 0.5 Meter long Permanent Magnet (x 10mm x 20mm), now if we move the Permanent magnet at right angles to the wire over only 0.5 Meter's of the Conductor, we will get an EMF on the terminals.

Now, if we fold the 1 Meter length in half exactly, so the Conductor is now 0.5 Meters in one direction and 0.5 Meters in the opposite direction, with a total length of 0.5 Meters. Now if we move out PM over the conductor, there will be no EMF on the Terminals...

Why?

Because in each Length (0.5 Meters) Charge is separated in the same direction, essentially this is a dead short and Charges can not flow to the Terminals.

So, we now have a problem, the Hooper-Monstein Experiment shows us, that:
   1: We currently don't understand the Charge Separation in a Conductor
   2: We don't understand the Magnetic Field
   3: All of the above.

Thanks for bring this Up A.King21

   Chris

[EMJunkie]

How would you create a low pressure zone in the atmosphere using coils.
No pulsing straight dc

Dave45 - I disagree with MileHigh!

This is a good question. Why would one NOT ask this question?

A Negative Resistance could constitute a Negative Entropy, which could be considered a Negative pressure under the context of the current topic. I do know how to make a Negative Inductance. it's actually very easy. This guy is a smart cookie: https://4gang.wordpress.com/how-to-build-a-negative-inductance/

Now to a Negative Resistance. First there are two types of Negative Resistance, Differential and True Negative Resistance. Differential Negative Resistance never goes below Zero, always above. Theoretically True Negative Resistance can go below Zero and beyond....

Nearly all the literature is Differential Resistance. So be careful here...

I recommend to study what Resistance is, How is a Conductor susceptible to resistive forces?

E.G: As we are susceptible to Wind Resistance, how is a Conductor Susceptible to Electrical Resistance? Hahaha someone has already given us the answer...

   Chris

[MileHigh]

Here's a clue just for you MH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7PjIAYv8Uk

Now get off your butt and build something.

Really Dave?  A "magic" transformer that outputs three times the input power?   How does it do that?  Then we have a bunch of wobbling cylinders on a bigger cylinder all stuck together because of magnets.  Wow.  And how does all of this relate to "a low pressure zone in the atmosphere using coils."

Please Dave, you have three disparate things that you have pointed to.  How do they are relate to each other?  Please connect the dots for us and make a logical argument and put everything together and give us you reasoned conclusion.  How do coils make a "low pressure zone," that's a new one to me?

I am really really curious to read how you relate everything together and show us your thoughtful reasoned conclusion.

[Magluvin]

But what if the core is a toroid?,where the magnetic field is suppose to remain within the toroid core it self. If two coils are wound on the toroid core,so as one coil is wound on 1/2 of the core,and the second is wound on the other 1/2 of the core,and a small gap left between each end of the winding's. A diametrically magnetised magnet is then spun near the core at the center of one of the coils. One side of the coil see's a north field,and the other side a south field(and no correcting here MH,we are using understood descriptions only). The center of the coil will see the the neutral zone of the field as well. Now what happens when we load both coils?,do we get a bucking field between the two coil end's,and is the BEMF directed back toward the rotating magnet,or dose it remain in the core?. If it dosnt remain within the core,then we have a south,and north field that meet in the middle of the coil winding-->which means a neutral field. So what will be acting against the rotating magnet?.

Yes, there is field outside of the toroid core, but mostly it all happens in the doughnut hole of the core. A pdf called "classical flux analysis" explained it quite well.

Say if we have 50 turns of wire(primary) on one side of the core and 50 turns(secondary) on the other. If we input ac to the primary, and all of the field created by the primary stays in the core, then the secondary would not be induced. The windings have to be 'cut' by the magnetic field in order to induce current into the wire. If all of the primary field stays in the core, then if the secondary has output, how did the secondary get induced if the field of the primary didnt 'cut' the secondary windings? The windings dont have feelers out there to see if there is a field locked in the core in order to produce current. 

So the core, unsaturated, doesnt allow field of the winding outside of the outer radius of the core, but in order for the field to become a loop in the core, the magnetic loop around the windings grow with more current and expand outward, across the toroid cores doughnut hole and snaps into the core as a loop. So these expanding fields that grow and snap across the hole of the toroid are able to 'cut' the sec windings and induce sec current.

Same thing in any closed core, ecore, etc.

Mags