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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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tinman

So i think it is time for some others here to do some test for me.
I would like anyone here to show me an inductive kickback current(which this is not),that can drive any resistive load for 95% of the cycle,and use only a 5% on time to charge there inductor.and this will be the first time you hear me say this--> sim's welcome.

So some more things to think about.
The primary coil switches on,and this couples to the secondary in the center of the core. The secondary is loaded at this time,and that induced power is disipated through the globe. The primary then switches off,and as has been seen in previous video's and scope shot's,current stop's flowing through the primary after a very brief ringing period. So the primary has switched off,and no longer is inducing a current in the secondary via a magnetic field. The secondary at the time on period of the primary was disipating this induced energy into the globe. So now the primary is off,and the secondary has disipated the induced power-->so where is the reverse current coming from for the remaining 90 odd% of each cycle?.

tinman

Here is the latest video on the test i have carried out this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-PIC6P17VI

poynt99

Brad,

You have a flyback diode across the primary, and this "rectifies" the current through the coil. You see it as voltage/current hanging below the 0 ref line. I explained this years ago. It is a little different here because you are seeing the effect on the secondary, but it has the same effect.

Your primary isn't actually "open" when the MOSFET is OFF, it is shorted by the flyback diode, and this "load" is seen by the secondary. I will do a simulation to show you what is happening. Let's hope this is the last time I have to go through this.  ;)

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picowatt

Quote from: tinman on May 25, 2015, 11:06:28 AM
Here is the latest video on the test i have carried out this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-PIC6P17VI

Tinman,

In this video, you appeared to have the drain isolated from the secondary and you were only using one scope channel.  Were you triggering the scope from the FG or the channel being used?  This looks close enough to the concept of my isolated secondary/scope test to rule out any strange leakage paths.

Although you were not using 5V per division (used 1V/div), you seemed to have more upward going tilt in the -DC portion of the secondary waveform.  Is this true or is the tilt about the same as always?

PW

Added: 

Tinman,

Just for the heck of it, consider using your multimeter to measure the capacitance between the outer primary and inner secondary.

tinman

Quote from: picowatt on May 25, 2015, 12:08:55 PM
Tinman,

   
Although you were not using 5V per division (used 1V/div), you seemed to have more upward going tilt in the -DC portion of the secondary waveform.  Is this true or is the tilt about the same as always?

PW

QuoteIn this video, you appeared to have the drain isolated from the secondary and you were only using one scope channel.

Yes-that is what you told me to do.

QuoteWere you triggering the scope from the FG or the channel being used?

From the channel being used-->is this not clear in the video?.

QuoteThis looks close enough to the concept of my isolated secondary/scope test to rule out any strange leakage paths.

This is good new's lol.

QuoteAlthough you were not using 5V per division (used 1V/div), you seemed to have more upward going tilt in the -DC portion of the secondary waveform.  Is this true or is the tilt about the same as always?

Yes,there is more upward tilt on the off time current flow-if that is what you mean. This is caused by my DMM's CSR. In the other video's,i had the DMM amp meter on the input,and as you seen in the scope shots i done for TK's test,we lost about 2 volts across the DMM's CSR,as the instantanious current exceeded 10 amp's,as the primary coil resistance is only around .6 ohms. This resulted in a lower output at the secondary,and thus a flatter line on the trace during the off period. Now the DMM is removed from the P/in side,we are getting close to full battery voltage across the primary coil. This has resulted in a larger reverse voltage at the start of the off period on the secondary.In the other video's and scope shot's,you will see that line starts at about 2 volts,and drops off to about 1.6 by the time the next cycle starts. In this video(where the DMM is removed from the P/in),you can see that the line starts at about 2.8 volts,and drops down to around 1.8 volts when the next cycle starts.