Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[TinselKoala]

@TinMan: In that last scopeshot you posted, I see that the trigger level value is shown as -200mV... but the trigger symbol is 200 mV _above_ the zero baseline... does this mean that you have the Yellow trace inverted on the screen?

[minnie]

   Good Koala!!
               great demo, it helps a lot that you've increased the brightness - the grid
  lines are much easier to see.
        One thing I do wonder is how does the Tinwoman put up with hours of tinkering?
              John.

[poynt99]

This i know,and no,im not thinking along the wrong path. This is exactly what i am trying to show-an equal amount of power flowing in both directions--this is an AC power with current and voltage offsets. This is why i say that some are missing the big picture here when all data i have shown is being missed or misunderstood. So i will try again-although i have now posted the scope shot 3 time's.

I understand what you are saying and what you are believing (you do not need to repeat it), but from your responses I can tell that you do not understand what I am saying. What do you mean by "power flowing in both directions" for example? I have not said nor implied that, and it is incorrect to say that. Power is flowing in ONE direction only; towards the load. Don't confuse the direction of power with the direction of voltage or current. I clearly illustrated in one of my last posts how a negative voltage and current ends up being a positive power. Positive power for BOTH cases means power is flowing TO THE LOAD.

L1I=L1 inner
L1O=L1 outer
L2O=L2 outer

So once again,refering to the scope shot below.
The yellow trace is L2 outer with a 2.2 ohm CSR in series with the resistive load.The scope is across the CSR.
The blue trace is L1 inner with a 2.2 ohm CSR in series with the same value resistive load.The scope is across the CSR.
L1 switches on,and we see the current peak on both CSR's-this is normal. BUT,when L1 switches off ,we see the yellow trace give a quick reverse current kick,then ring for a short time before flat lineing. Now,being wound around the core over the top of L1,one would think that if there is current still flowing through L1 outer,and a magnetic field still collapsing around L1 outer,then L2 outer still should show current flowing through it-correct. But we see no current flow through L2 outer for most of the off time.

The current in L2O quickly returns to zero because L1O has switched OFF, AND the tau of L2O is relatively low.

We then look at the blue trace-L1 inner,and we can see clear as mud that the current continues to flow through L1 inner for the whole off time part of the cycle. Not only dose current flow for the whole cycle,it is almost a constant value for the full off time period of L1.

The current in L1I continues to flow while L1O is OFF because when L1O energized L1I during the ON time, L1I STORED this energy and releases that stored energy at a very slow rate compared to L2O because of L1I's relatively large inductance and L/R ratio. And although the current may appear constant, it is not. It will eventually go to zero, just like L2O does.

So things to be answered.
1-why do we not see a current flow through L2 outer if a current is still flowing ,and the magnetic field is still collapsing around L1 outer-when L2 outer is wound right next to,and along side L1 outer.

Current flow in L1O and L2O ceases shortly after the FET switches OFF. Both L1O and L2O have small inductances relative to L1I, so they both appear to react more like a resistor because of the low L/R ratio.

2-If there is no magnetic field still collapsing around L1 outer(as L2 outer would suggest),then why is there current still flowing through L1 inner?.

As per the explanation above; because L1I is SLOWLY releasing the energy it stored during the On time because of its relatively large L/R ratio.

So can the field travel through 10mm of poor core material before getting to L1 inner better than it can getting to L2 outer-which is wound next to,and over L1 outer?.
This seems a big ask to me.

Even though L1O and L2O are closely-wound (no distance between them), they are somewhat poorly/loosely coupled to each other, and their inductances are small compared to that of L1I (because of their distance to the ferrite core).

The distance of 10mm between L1O and L1I represents a decrease in coupling, but L1I is tightly coupled to a high permeability core giving it a relatively high inductance compared to L2O. It is evident from the test results that the amp-turns from L1O couple much better to L1I than to L2O. I estimate the coupling factor between L1O and L2O is 8 times less (1/r³) than that between L1O and L1I because there is twice the distance between L1O and L2O (L1O to the ferrite core is 10mm, plus another 10mm from the core back to L2O) compared to that between L1O and L1I. Because of the difference in inductance between L1O and L1I, the two make up a step-up transformer.

All these factors combined result in the effects you are seeing Brad. Not sure I want to spend any more time on this, as I feel it is all fairly clear.

.99

[EMJunkie]

EMJUNKIE,

You can post whatever you like so long you do not say the forbidden word "OVERUNITY"
That would be copyright infringement !

If you really want to, no matter what,  the least you can do is bring with a witness who can vouch for you.

Red

Hey Red_Sunset - Hmm, seems like a really sad state of affairs doesn't it!

We are all here searching for what? And the Blasphemous word is what? Cant be used or one is ridiculed!

You know, I know there are some really smart people here! But at the same time, some of the smartest are the Dumbest! How many times does one have to witness an event before the mind's eye can see?

I mean, just ask TK - Floyd Sweet, Akula0083, Bill Alek, Stan Meyer, and many hundreds more all were FAKE!

I believe because these stupid idiots all had their Scope set to AC Coupling - Hahahahaha

It does not matter how much evidence I present, how many witnesses, or how many people come forward saying they are getting "Positive Results" or "Unexplained Measurements" these people can not, will not comprehend that there is a whole new World staring them right in their face and they cant see it!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

Your waveforms suggest that you have much longer L/R time constants than poynt99 and TK.

That's three!!! Well done MarkE!

Why?

I believe I know and have already given the answer!!! But alas, some will not understand even so!

   Chris