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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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EMJunkie

@All

Now some may see why I will not discuss measurements - Its a bag of worms that anyone can take debate to!

Even if you have a huge budget!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

MileHigh

QuoteYou would rather introduce Line impedance into the circuit being tested than use a Budget Probe? Surely this is the most ridiculous statement you have ever made? This is undoubtable a way to take measurements but certainly this does introduce a host of other problems in the scheme of testing and verifying! Relying on this method alone is certainly not something I would suggest!

The entire Electrical Engineering industry is in such a state! It offers Instruments that don't work according to many Engineers, Oscilloscopes that have functions that don't work, the list goes on!

Haven't we clearly established where you and Mark are in terms of knowledge and experience when it comes to this stuff?  Surely you are self-aware?

MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 28, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
PW,

I like that word: accurately...

I read a quote sometime back, I can not locate the quote right now unfortunately, but it was something similar to: "The output was significant enough, such that the possible error would be insignificant"

All meters have a degree in measurement error, no matter how expensive!

Thus the +- in the spec sheet.

Measurement Error is inevitable, to try to minimise this degree of error should be the end users objective, with the equipment they have on hand.

What's your +- PW?

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org
Those assertions are grossly ignorant. 

Magluvin

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 28, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
@All

Now some may see why I will not discuss measurements - Its a bag of worms that anyone can take debate to!

Even if you have a huge budget!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

You make a good point.  Until now, I had not seen this as a 'last resort' tactic against a claim.( but now know to look for it) Its mostly been that it is all being measured wrong. But when it is shown that it is not measured wrong, it must be faulty equipment. 

So I suppose the only proofs that can be had are timed rundown of a looped circuit running off of a cap or battery. Really when it comes down to it, the circuit needs to be useful, like charging a battery/cap using it as the source and doing more than just floating or slowly draining the batt/cap.

Could run light bulbs like Kap, not leds. Leds just dont stir up much interest these days. Jt circuits are not drawing crowds like they did.

So I have to say you would be right. No sense in putting out measurement numbers if they mean nothing at all. ???   The only thing that could count as proof would be total in from a filtered source to a filtered load/batt/cap. If there is more simple out than simple in then it is good.


Mags