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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MarkE

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gyulasun

Hi Nick,

Thanks and here is the link to tinman's tests in question, it was he performing them. 
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg456675/#msg456675

It is okay what you wrote, though eddy current losses should be considered. 
Ferromagnetic materials change their permeability when exposed to magnetic flux coming from a permanent magnet or other source, you can tune a coil having the usual core by placing a permanent magnet near to it.

Gyula

tinman

Quote from: TinselKoala on July 20, 2015, 05:36:05 PM
My Arduino based metal detector easily responds to a piece of ferrite about the size of my little finger (a broken bit of flyback core), at 10 cm distance from its _air core_ sense coil.

The way it accomplishes this amazing feat is simple. The circuitry, powered from the 5V regulated bus of the Arduino, oscillates the sense coil at around 120 kHz or so. The frequency of the oscillation is very sensitive to the inductance of the coil. Duh. The proximity of the ferrite changes the inductance of the air core coil, even from some distance away. The Arduino is used to monitor the frequency with high accuracy, taking a sample for a "null reference" , and when the frequency changes due to the change in inductance of the coil due to the presence of ferrite or metal, the Arduino produces an output click at a rate that is proportional to the change in frequency from the reference value.

The conclusion is that air core coils do change inductance measurably in the presence of materials of high permeability.

And this has What? to do with the amount of current flowing through a coil that has a set pulse rate when in the presence of materials of high permeability ?.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on July 20, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
And this has What? to do with the amount of current flowing through a coil that has a set pulse rate when in the presence of materials of high permeability ?.
If you go back to the drawing I posted, or I guess I will repost it here:  Once the coil is magnetized the current consumed is controlled by the resistance of the wire.  Following an ideal voltage step, the inductance blocks all current and then gradually current builds.  The voltage drop is initially entirely across the inductive reactance.  As time passes current builds in the coil and more and more of the applied voltage step results in a change in I2R until eventually all of the voltage drop is across I*R and all of the power goes to I2R loss.  At that point we aren't adding any energy to the magnet.  All of the power is going into resistance losses..

The energy that you want to know about is the energy that you aren't examinging yet:  The energy that goes into magnetization.

So what this all has to do with TK's metal detector is that his circuit never reaches a steady state.  Each cycle is too short for that.  Consequently each cycle the current profile is altered because of the proximity of conductive and/or ferrous metal.

shylo

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