Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[tinman]

Are you saying that tinman miscounted his turns on his inner coil by twice as much? That is one hell of an error to have a 200% counting error. That means that instead of 70 turns he miscounted and actually put 140 turns. I don't believe that. The only other reason I can think of to merit that statement is you must  think he is purposely lying about his inner turns.

Wow.

This is what some resort to when there !known! physics and theories cant explain what is going on.
I have seen it before,and now im seeing it again.

There is another on this forum  building a HTT-->i guess when he post the same sort of results,he will become a liar as well.

[MileHigh]

Brad, I will respond but this is a quickie response for right now.

I haven't seen you account for the flux cancellation and addition in the two cores by virtue of the fact that the inner secondary is sandwiched between two coaxial cores.  Likewise, how can you possibly state that the turns ratio is 1:1 when you know that applies to a conventional transformer where the 100% of the flux produced by the primary is seen by the secondary and there is one core.  In your case you have this mix of flux cancellation and addition and you have two coaxial cores where the inner secondary will generate flux that flows in opposite directions in the two cores.  This will completely throw the turns ratio out of whack and the only way to figure out what is going on is to roll up your shirtsleeves and test your device on your bench and figure it all out.  It's completely baffling to me that you would ignore these facts and just blindly pretend that your "1:1 ratio" in your device is the same as a 1:1 ratio in a standard transformer.  It just makes no sense at all and if you are hanging on this "fact" then you are failing to apply basic magnetic flux and transformer principles that you are supposed to know and understand by now.

[MileHigh]

Brad:

I am not taking you up on the opportunity to explain the voltage gain.  I just posted how your device is so out of whack compared to a conventional transformer that you can't take anything for granted.  It's your experiment and it's up to you to explain it without playing the ridiculous "conventional science can't explain how my transformer works" card.

You have no idea what a magnetic field truly is either.  Can you describe the taste of water?  This is the deck of cards that the Universe has dished out to us so we may as well learn how to play with them.

Bullshit. I bult the thing,I counted the turns on all 3 windings(70 turns each),and made them all the same for this very reason-as it was also noted in my first toroid transformer build. So the second time round i made sure the turn ratio was exactly 1:1:1-->are you calling me a liar ?.

No, what I am saying to you is that it's almost unbelievable that you can't recognize for yourself that your device with two cores and flux flowing in opposite directions in two separate coaxial toroidal cores would not conform to an "expected" 1:1 voltage ratio.  You can ignore all of the stuff about the turns and realize that the inner secondary is just responding to the changing flux.  Explain the how and why of the changing flux and you explain the measured output voltage.  These are just basic basics.

The velocity argument is dead.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

There is another on this forum  building a HTT-->i guess when he post the same sort of results,he will become a liar as well.

You are making a Straw Man argument here.

Nobody is saying that anybody is a liar for stating their observations.  Observations are not results.

The goal of the experiment is to explain your observations.

If you can't explain your observations and play the "not conventional science" card then you are in rubbish territory.

I will repeat again:  You HTT is doing exactly what it is supposed to be doing.  Right now you are unable to explain why it is doing what it is doing.

And yes, I am pushing this issue because we see it many times.  Explain your observations without falling back on the tired old "this is not in books" angle.  The explanation for the observations are the results of your experiment.  Use proper terminology.   Make proper measurements and if they show borderline over unity then you have to account for all possible measurement errors and tolerances.  If you do that and succeed then that should give any experimenter a lot of satisfaction.

[poynt99]

Quote wikipedia: The velocity of an object is the rate of change of its position with respect to a frame of reference, and is a function of time. Velocity is equivalent to a specification of its speed and direction of motion

So velocity !is! exactly that-the rate of change of it's position.

You are confusing rate of change of position, with rate of change of field strength.

Regarding your other post, turns ratios only hold when the turns are on the same relative position of the core. Clearly the primary and secondary of your transformer are not and therefore the turns ratio rule does not apply.

Let's do the reverse. Wind two coils on a standard toroid, but one has 4x the inductance of the other (similar to what your transformer exhibits). I think you can guess at the voltage ratio here.

An FYI. I will be limiting my posts from this point forward (in both forums).