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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MileHigh

Quote from: Drak on October 31, 2015, 01:09:42 PM
Is this an opinion or a fact? Just because it has never been done before (publicly) does not mean it can't be done. I wish there was a thread devoted just to this. I would love to see debates on this from people who believe it to be possible and and those that don't. I'm new to all the phase shift and reactive/active/apparent power, so it would be an entertaining read.

Pure "reactive power" is not even power in the conventional sense.  It simply means that the load will absorb some energy and store it, and then return that energy back to the source.  The load never absorbs any power from the source.  Instead, a small amount of energy ping-pongs back and forth.

Pirate88179

Quote from: Drak on October 31, 2015, 01:09:42 PM
Is this an opinion or a fact? Just because it has never been done before (publicly) does not mean it can't be done. I wish there was a thread devoted just to this. I would love to see debates on this from people who believe it to be possible and and those that don't. I'm new to all the phase shift and reactive/active/apparent power, so it would be an entertaining read.

There are several topics where this has been discussed in great detail.  Check out the QEG scammers topics (Save The World, and HoplessGirl, etc.)
as there entire scam is the claim of converting reactive power to real power, which of course, they can't hence the scam.  They raised over $250,000 on these false claims and had to flee the country.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

SoManyWires

Quote from: Pirate88179 on October 31, 2015, 02:06:09 PM
There are several topics where this has been discussed in great detail.  Check out the QEG scammers topics (Save The World, and HoplessGirl, etc.)
as there entire scam is the claim of converting reactive power to real power, which of course, they can't hence the scam.  They raised over $250,000 on these false claims and had to flee the country.

Bill

there he is! thats the same exact bill right there.
he noticed the same effect that bikelight did for the iron and magnet ramp, though not venturing into constructing a following 2nd ramp.
bill found the magnet did suddenly move towards the greater iron surface area from the smallest area.

someone else i think is dreamthinkbuild in the same thread mentioned to try placing the iron ramps on a slight angle, and using a dielectric such as a sheet of glass kept between the magnet and the iron.

in other experiments without iron, magnets have been shown to be able to make it past a 2nd ramp, it appears to be due to being able to maintain the correct angle of approach.

i think this involves further studies.

this concludes a non discussion about partnered output coils, and shall now return back to its subject(ive) topic. haha


at any rate, milehigh said if the iron and magnets were contacting rather than a different example such as what i mentioned in the previous posting.

Drak

Quote from: MileHigh on October 31, 2015, 01:42:08 PM
Pure "reactive power" is not even power in the conventional sense.  It simply means that the load will absorb some energy and store it, and then return that energy back to the source.  The load never absorbs any power from the source.  Instead, a small amount of energy ping-pongs back and forth.
I asked you this before and I did not get an answer. How does one allow the "reactive power" return to the source? Mosfets and diodes block the reactive power from returning. I mean having a device that returns the reactive power back to the grid through your meter to me is not really an alternative energy source it only dumps the reactive power back to the power company and lets them deal with it. If its not power then why is it called "power". If one were to have a device that runs at say 10khz and has a phase angle of 90 degrees on the input then essentially the device would use no power? At 10khz how would you "return" the reactive power? Is there a way to switch mosfets at certain times throughout the cycles and dump the reactive power back to the source?

Quote from: Pirate88179 on October 31, 2015, 02:06:09 PM
There are several topics where this has been discussed in great detail.  Check out the QEG scammers topics (Save The World, and HoplessGirl, etc.)
as there entire scam is the claim of converting reactive power to real power, which of course, they can't hence the scam.  They raised over $250,000 on these false claims and had to flee the country.
I agree that anyone who asks for money because they claim they can turn lead into gold etc I don't trust. I never paid any attention to the whole qeg/hopegirl thing. I'f you are saying that using reactive power is the main thing in those threads I will have a look, but what percentage is actual research and what percentage is biased  towards the "impossible". Or arguing over nonrelated stuff?


I mean look at this thread, its no longer about partnered output coils. How many people here actually did exactly what Chris asked? Only two that I can think of and it wasn't exact. Any way, thanks I'll have a look. :)



To both: I'm no expert in any of this, this is why I'm asking. I just refuse to be stuck in the 5% reality box that everyone has invested most of their lives believing in. (5% depending on which article you read, I've seen anywhere from .001% to 10%) This 95% dark matter/energy that science agrees exists is there, waiting to be touched. Take a mouse and raise it inside a box its whole life, never let it see the outside of the box. Then a few months before its about to die from old age, cut a hole in the side of the box. What will the mouse do?

partzman

Quote from: MileHigh on October 31, 2015, 01:42:08 PM
Pure "reactive power" is not even power in the conventional sense.  It simply means that the load will absorb some energy and store it, and then return that energy back to the source.  The load never absorbs any power from the source.  Instead, a small amount of energy ping-pongs back and forth.

MH,

With all due respect, you need to perhaps peer outside the box you have confined yourself to.  If you haven't already, I would invite you to take a look at the pdf I attached to post #5982. It addresses two taboo's and they are 1), excess power produced with passive components and 2), energy supplied back to the source (negative resistance) during the production of real power to a resistive load.

I'm happy to answer any questions you may have regarding this circuit and would encourage any dialog on the subject.  I have at present three topologies that produce OU using the same principles as shown here and was willing to show this limited example in order to "shake the tree" so to speak.  Only PW responded on this forum while ION made a comment on OUR.com.

partzman