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Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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tinman

Quote from: EMJunkie on April 28, 2016, 09:03:29 AM


Paired vs Un-Paired Electrons?

    Chris Sykes
        hyiq.org

Ah ha  ;)
Paired and unpaired electrons in Atoms.
Diamagnetic atoms repel magnetic fields.
Paramagnetic Atoms are attracted to magnetic fields.

Now we are getting some where.
What(and i do not mean the generic term- magnetic field)will push against(repel) a diamagnetic Atom?
And what (and i do not mean the generic term- magnetic field) will attract a Paramagnetic Atom?

This is where we dismiss that rubbish shown in the video you posted a couple of post back,as !both! end's of the magnet act upon the diamagnetic and paramagnetic Atom in the same way.
If this spin theory was correct,then each end of the magnet would have the opposite effect against that Atom. Here lies the problem--we(well most) believe in only two charge states-->negative charge,and positive charge,and where a neutral charge is an even amount of both charge states.

So now a bit of research for you.
Find out what charge state the paramagnetic Atom is,and what charge state the diamagnetic Atom is.


If you are happy to discuss/discover this here on your thread,we will continue. If not,we can open a new thread on the magnetic charge--i mean field/force.  :D


Brad

picowatt

Quote from: tinman on April 28, 2016, 10:11:45 AM

This is where we dismiss that rubbish shown in the video you posted a couple of post back,as !both! end's of the magnet act upon the diamagnetic and paramagnetic Atom in the same way.
If this spin theory was correct,then each end of the magnet would have the opposite effect against that Atom.

Tinman,

Would you please expand on what you mean to say above?

With either polarity of applied field:

paramagnetic materials align opposite to the applied field and are therefore attracted to the applied field

diamagnetic materials align with the applied field and are therefore repelled from the applied field

In both types of materials, the alignment typically returns to a random state (due to thermal motion) when
the applied field is removed (the "para" or "dia" magnetism is not retained). 

Since either material assumes an alignment which is determined by the polarity of the applied field, I fail to
see how this disproves electron spin.

Do you believe that "spin" (or several spins) cannot be flipped (or otherwise manipulated)? 

PW


Bob Smith

Chris
Maybe someone's already mentioned this but fwiw...
Considering Spin Theory, if we get 2 spin waves travelling toward each other along oppositely wound coils on a shared same core, are we not going to get a standing wave where they meet?

It would seem to me that if we put a pickup coil at this particular point where the standing wave manifests, we can draw excess energy from the standing wave without taking anything away from what's being produced in the individual sets of windings. In this sense, we would effectively have a cop>1, would we not?
Bob

Edit: Just noticed a little bit of Spin Theory chat above - no time to read, back to work. Hope I didn't duplicate what's already been said.

EMJunkie

Quote from: tinman on April 28, 2016, 10:11:45 AM
Ah ha  ;)
Paired and unpaired electrons in Atoms.
Diamagnetic atoms repel magnetic fields.
Paramagnetic Atoms are attracted to magnetic fields.

Now we are getting some where.
What(and i do not mean the generic term- magnetic field)will push against(repel) a diamagnetic Atom?
And what (and i do not mean the generic term- magnetic field) will attract a Paramagnetic Atom?

This is where we dismiss that rubbish shown in the video you posted a couple of post back,as !both! end's of the magnet act upon the diamagnetic and paramagnetic Atom in the same way.
If this spin theory was correct,then each end of the magnet would have the opposite effect against that Atom. Here lies the problem--we(well most) believe in only two charge states-->negative charge,and positive charge,and where a neutral charge is an even amount of both charge states.

So now a bit of research for you.
Find out what charge state the paramagnetic Atom is,and what charge state the diamagnetic Atom is.


If you are happy to discuss/discover this here on your thread,we will continue. If not,we can open a new thread on the magnetic charge--i mean field/force.  :D


Brad



Hey Brad - Yes happy to discuss, its a valid and sensible topic.

When you say:

Quote from: tinman on April 28, 2016, 10:11:45 AM

So now a bit of research for you.
Find out what charge state the paramagnetic Atom is,and what charge state the diamagnetic Atom is.


If you are happy to discuss/discover this here on your thread,we will continue. If not,we can open a new thread on the magnetic charge--i mean field/force.  :D



Havent I already done this?

Paramagnetic:
   Possessing Un-Paired Electrons (E-) - In attraction to an external Magnetic Field - Spin +1/2 (Low Energy State)

Diamagnetic:
   Lacking Un-Paired Electrons (E-) - In repulsion to an external Magnetic Field - Spin -1/2 (High Energy State)

The actual Charge Value of the Electrons depend on:
   1: The Element in the Periodic Table
   2: The Orbital of that Electron
   3: The state of the Electron

E.G:

Tungsten (Paramagnetic), 74 Electrons, 6 different States.

Bismuth (Diamagnetic), 83 Electrons, 6 different States.

However, the Formal Charge:

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_charge

In chemistry, a formal charge (FC) is the charge assigned to an atom in a molecule, assuming that electrons in all chemical bonds are shared equally between atoms, regardless of relative electronegativity.[1] When determining the best Lewis structure (or predominant resonance structure) for a molecule, the structure is chosen such that the formal charge on each of the atoms is as close to zero as possible.

The formal charge of any atom in a molecule can be calculated by the following equation:

FC = V - N - B/2

where V is the number of valence electrons of the neutral atom in isolation (in its ground state); N is the number of non-bonding valence electrons on this atom in the molecule; and B is the total number of electrons shared in bonds with other atoms in the molecule.


Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_charge

This charge has a measured value of approximately 1.6021766208(98)×10−19 coulombs.



    Chris Sykes
        hyiq.org