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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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hyiq




The Figures I used were from Itsu's Posted Scope Shot. I downloaded Itsu's Video in 720P and have better Figures. See attached:

Using the figures, when Itsu went into resonance (approx. 8.6KHz) we get a Power Factor (L2) of: -0.9884939

Ok, now everyone needs to know:
   1: LC Resonance, Voltage and Current is 90 Degrees out of Phase, in Itsu's experiment and mine, we see nearly Zero
   2: The Power Factor on L2 is not a normal thing, we see it only when Power is being "Generated"! As I have stated millions of times.
   3: We have two Currents 180 Degrees Out Of Phase, thus, applying the Right Hand Grip Rule, we have two Magnetic Field 180 Degrees Out Of Phase, or Opposing!!!

I don't want to bore you with more information, but really this is about as NOT Normal as you would normally see!!! A Negative Power Factor is SUPER important! It is the "Generation" of Electrical Energy!!! Only in a Generator, or in a Transformer would we see this. In saying this, Voltage and Current would very unlikely be 180 Degrees out of Phase on the same branch!!! By adding an Asymmetric component, another Coil do we get the opportunity to bring about something special!

Common Verpies, Cifta and all you other super smart guys, how about we hear from you and see what your thoughts are...


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

itsu

Quote from: dieter on February 17, 2017, 09:43:20 PM
Nice video, Itsu,


would you do me a favour?
hooking a big cap in parallel with one of the bucking coils and do the same test once more?


I'd be really curious about the outcome.


Hi Dieter,

i can do that, however, this "big cap in parallel with one of the bucking coils" will be parallel also to the other coil and the 1uF cap as
we are dealing with a parallel LC circuit.

It will probably only further decrease the resonance frequency of this parallel circuit (presently around 7KHz).

We will see.


Itsu

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PARAMOUNT TO GREATER OUTPUT..

itsu

Chris,

this simple little circuit as you call it, is not that simple to dissect as it contains much interacting signals / properties.
Sometimes i think it kind of "flips over" as i cannot get the 180° out of phase signals across the 1 Ohm resistors (they are in phase suddenly).
I will try to capture that situation.


Anyway, some confusion here:

 
Quote1: When the Peak to Peak Voltage across the Capacitor is at maximum the Circuit is in resonance.
2: The Voltage and Current on Coil, LOne will be close to in phase, ± a few degrees.
3: The Voltage and Current on the second Coil, LTwo will be 180 Degrees out of phase, ± a few degrees.


With "LOne" you mean the 11 turn coil?
With "second Coil, LTwo" you mean the 7 turn coil?
These points i agree with (remind you that the current probe (green) induces some phase delay), but in your 2e post you say:


QuoteOk, now everyone needs to know:
   1: LC Resonance, Voltage and Current is 90 Degrees out of Phase, in Itsu's experiment and mine, we see nearly Zero
   2: The Power Factor on L2 is not a normal thing, we see it only when Power is being "Generated"! As I have stated millions of times.
   3: We have two Currents 180 Degrees Out Of Phase, thus, applying the Right Hand Grip Rule, we have two Magnetic Field 180 Degrees Out Of Phase, or Opposing!!!


that 1st point is opposite as what you mention above, in a parallel circuit in LC resonance, the voltage and current are (should be) in phase.
And that is what we see happening allthough not exactly 0°, but i blame that on the current probes delay factor and the unusual influence of the bucking coil.


Your question on Negative Power Factor i have to study on as i don't know, perhaps some more knowledgeable people can step in here.

I will play around some more with this circuit.

Itsu

partzman

Quote from: hyiq on February 17, 2017, 11:52:01 PM


The Figures I used were from Itsu's Posted Scope Shot. I downloaded Itsu's Video in 720P and have better Figures. See attached:

Using the figures, when Itsu went into resonance (approx. 8.6KHz) we get a Power Factor (L2) of: -0.9884939

Ok, now everyone needs to know:
   1: LC Resonance, Voltage and Current is 90 Degrees out of Phase, in Itsu's experiment and mine, we see nearly Zero
   2: The Power Factor on L2 is not a normal thing, we see it only when Power is being "Generated"! As I have stated millions of times.
   3: We have two Currents 180 Degrees Out Of Phase, thus, applying the Right Hand Grip Rule, we have two Magnetic Field 180 Degrees Out Of Phase, or Opposing!!!

I don't want to bore you with more information, but really this is about as NOT Normal as you would normally see!!! A Negative Power Factor is SUPER important! It is the "Generation" of Electrical Energy!!! Only in a Generator, or in a Transformer would we see this. In saying this, Voltage and Current would very unlikely be 180 Degrees out of Phase on the same branch!!! By adding an Asymmetric component, another Coil do we get the opportunity to bring about something special!

Common Verpies, Cifta and all you other super smart guys, how about we hear from you and see what your thoughts are...


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Chris,

Analyzing the input and output power levels of Itsu's scope shot in your post is very interesting.  For example, the input voltage is ~1.555v rms and the input current measured as shown is 5.84ma rms with a phase angle of ~20 degrees so, the input power is 1.555 x 5.84e-3 x cosine(20) = 8.53mw.

Pout1 is 412mv rms across 1 ohm for (.412^2)/1 = 170mw and Pout2 is 205mv rms across 1 ohm for (.205^2)/1 = 42mw for a total Pout = 212mw.  The COP = .212/.00853 = 24.85!!!!

Now a question for everyone, is this correct?  If not, why?

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