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The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch

Started by TommeyLReed, January 20, 2015, 09:54:49 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 25, 2015, 05:58:20 AM
The reason they dont answer AC,is simply because they have no idea. They will fight and argue as to how correct they are,and that your ideas are total rubbish,but as we have seen so many time's,they have no answer them self. It's just a !im right,and your wrong! arguement with nothing to back up there claim. There best is-well it dose what we expect it to do. This is another rubbish claim,as devices were built around the effect's,the effects wernt built around the device.
The sad part is that you probably have really convinced yourself of this idea.
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The magnetic field is a very good example,they know all about it because your computor work's ;)
Once again this is very sad.  There seems to be an impenetrable block for some folks where they just cannot or simply refuse to grasp how science works.  We are limited to what we know by what we can observe when we go about to test our ideas, but even so we are fully justified in having very high confidence in a number of our beliefs.  Our confidence is justified by the extent to which we have put those beliefs to the test.
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In actual fact,the computor was designed to work with the already present magnetic field. So what they did was to build an ICE that runs on gasoline,but cant explain what the gasoline is ???

The best bit is that they ask you!insist! that you believe in the current modle of the magnetic field,even though they cant explain what it is that produces the physical force within the field-->aint that a hoot--please come for a ride in my plane--i dont know why it flies,but it dose  :D Funny thing is,most who fly on planes actually dont know how they fly.
More of the same clap trap.  The conventional theory has been explained to you over, and over, and over again.  You have been pointed to numerous references.  And yet, you persist in this narrative.  What then is your conclusion?  It it that since according to you the efforts of millions over hundreds of years have totally botched science that we are doomed to as you claim never understand magnetic attraction?
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Here is something interesting i read not to long ago.
It is a fact that magnetic dipoles and magnetic fields cannot exist without there being some directly associated electron related charge flow-spin-circulation, as via atomic-molecular orbit or flow via a conductor, coil or plasma etc.
A magnetic field exists whereever charge moves.  Electrons are hardly the only source of charge in the universe.
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So how can it be stated that an already radiated electromagnetic 'wave' propagates with an associated transverse magnetic 'field', when electromagnetic radiation is known to not be a stream of electrons (current) travelling at the speed of light,
Wrong.
Quotewhilst additionally, at no point along the 'wave' is there any circuit through which charge can circulate or flow in order to generate a magnetic field?
You began with an incorrect premise and went downhill from there.  150 years ago a genius named James Clerk Maxwell Maxwell discovered the mathematical relations that allow for transverse electromagnetic waves to propagate without a medium.  You are free to attempt to disprove Maxwell's math, or how that math applies to observable electo-magnetic phenomena.  Many very bright and well-educated people have tried.  In Maxwell's time many of his contemporaries were very skeptical of the idea that any kind of wave could propagate without a medium to support that propagation.  Yet, his equations continue to work unscathed for 150 years, while the search for the elusive lumineforous aether, a medium for E/M waves goes on without any successful attempt to detect the aether.  If the aether exists, so far we are unable to find it.
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There is no answer to that question;  and thus I personally cannot any longer accept that there is any sinusoidal alternating transverse magnetic 'field' component accompanying the propagation of a radiated electromagnetic 'wave'.
Really?  And where have you looked for answers?  Certainly it has not been in any second semester physics course where Maxwell's equations are typically introduced.
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This guy has done years of bench work,and can back up all his data with actual measurements of actual devices. he go's on to say that he believes that it is not electromagnetic waves we are dealing with,but more of a photon wave of different spin ratios.
That's nice.  Can you delineate the difference between a "photon wave of different spin ratios" and an electromagnetic wave?
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Of course this will be dismissed by those that think they know better,but as usual,have nothing to offer as to why there modle is better.
The quality of a model is its ability to make accurate predictions.  When it comes to electrodynamics, conventional theory daily makes predictions that prove correct from simply heating wires to transmitting data at over 30 billion bits per second over just two copper traces, or terabits per second over one optical fiber.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 25, 2015, 06:18:35 AM
Oh P.SIt's not actually an orbital motion,it's more a helical motion ;)
You can orbit a mass that is in constant motion


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU

And this one shows our journey through the galaxy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws
And as long as the orbits do not suddenly collapse you have answered your own challenge as to where can one find an object in continuous motion.

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on January 25, 2015, 07:22:03 AM
And as long as the orbits do not suddenly collapse you have answered your own challenge as to where can one find an object in continuous motion.
Once again,this motion is the result of an applied force. Some say,or theory has it that this motion is the result of the big bang.

What im asking here is-->what caused the motion of the Atom,what force was applied to the Atom to start this motion?.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 25, 2015, 08:08:35 AM
Once again,this motion is the result of an applied force.
The motion continues without any force required in the direction of motion.  ERGO no energy added or removed.
QuoteSome say,or theory has it that this motion is the result of the big bang.
The source of energy that established a given energy state has nothing to do with whether or not any energy is required to maintain the energy state.  In this example, as in many others, no energy is required simply to maintain the state.
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What im asking here is-->what caused the motion of the Atom,what force was applied to the Atom to start this motion?.
That's a:  "What was the universe like at T0 and what caused it to be that way?" kind of question.  No one has yet found a solid answer.

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on January 25, 2015, 10:08:17 AM
 
QuoteThe motion continues without any force required in the direction of motion.  ERGO no energy added or removed.
So it takes no energy to change the direction of our moving sun or planet's ???
The sun has a mass about 330 000 times that of earths mass,and yet no energy is required to change the direction of travel of that mass ??? And yet if we wish to change the direction of the space shuttle when in space,energy is required.

QuoteThe source of energy that established a given energy state has nothing to do with whether or not any energy is required to maintain the energy state.  In this example, as in many others, no energy is required simply to maintain the state.
How dose one maintain a helical motion of a mass without a force being applied to that mass,or the mass itself supplying the energy to create the required force to change the direction of that mass?

QuoteNo one has yet found a solid answer.
If physics has no answer,then how can you state-reply 19 Quote
Quote: Chet is it your belief that atoms continuously dissipate energy?  We have lots of experience with things being able to remain in a given energy state for a long, long time.  Their energy does not increase and it does not decrease.
As physics has no answer yet,then this statement is unjustified-we have lots of experiance,but we have no answers ???-->you see how silly that looks from our side of the fence.