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Wheel vs. lever...

Started by iacob alex, September 24, 2006, 08:49:34 PM

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iacob alex

#35
August 21, 2020, 02:31:12 PM
  Hi sm0ky2 !
You have it , as :
www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text029.jpg
www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text030.jpg
All the best!/Al_ex

iacob alex

#36
November 01, 2023, 07:54:25 AM
....if lever plays as a practical "minimal /spokes" wheel .at : https://www.gettyimages.in/photos/lever-physics
   Al_ex

Cloxxki

#37
November 01, 2023, 08:52:16 AM
Quote from: iacob alex on November 01, 2023, 07:54:25 AM
....if lever plays as a practical "minimal /spokes" wheel .at : https://www.gettyimages.in/photos/lever-physics
   Al_ex
That was a waste of my minute. What specific image did you mean? Could you perhaps upload it and offer a bit more context?

norman6538

#38
November 01, 2023, 05:58:17 PM
Reference post 33
.....or playing gravity with a wheel concept , as :
     www.energythic.com/view.php?node=264

I tested the concept of moving the arm/weight 90 degrees in line with the wheel and it does rotate because its mass is shifted from the axle. I call that the "set" and then after it rotates less than 180 degrees a "reset" must be done so it is re-balanced and no work is required to get it back to the top for a repeat . So I call that "switching" and it would have to have more energy from the rotation than the "switching".

I made something similar where a smaller weight with leverage raised a larger weight upward from the axle as it tilted and went past noon and did rotate about 100 degrees but would not continue. Then when those leveraged weights got to the bottom it reset itself....

Norman

norman6538

#39
November 03, 2023, 09:41:51 AM
Further analysis and testing shows that "setting/switching" would have to be done on the fly at 12-1 where the greatest leverage is available and then "resetting/switching" back to balanced at about 4:30 so the weight does not go outside the circle of rotation causing work loss to lift it back up to its balanced position. I am sure Finsrud could finesse this well.

I will do some crude tests to see if it is even close to possible.

I have a second mechanism that could do that without any inertia losses...

I have always said it will take multiple mechanisms to work together to have a gravity wheel successful.

Norman
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