Open Systems

[profitis]

 sewer forums can also be the launchpad to fame and riches mr canadian.what you give you can get.

[allcanadian]

@profitis
I'm just saying what we should already know on some level. There are a great deal of very smart young people doing unbelievable things which we thought were impossible. That's the way life is and all the old people always say it cannot be done while the younger generation are always busy doing it. You know we have come a long way but some things never seem to change.
AC

[profitis]

Too true mr canadian.I'm not young nor old but if I was living where you are I probly wouldve been rich ages ago.here in africa if you don't bribe some-one in the right way you get nowhere.wild west(south) out here 

[Farmhand]

A closed system is one where the output dose not reach the enviroment. As this systems sole purpose is to create heat, and the system is housed in an insulated vessel, then no heat reaches the enviroment -thus the system is closed off from the enviroment. An open system is one that can use enviromental resources when there there to use.

Really ? no heat or energy at all can escape ? And no energy can enter either. How do you measure anything in a truly closed system
unless your inside it.

That's your definition.

An open system is one that can use enviromental resources when there there to use

My definition of a closed system is one where no energy can enter or escape, the energy within the system remains the same. Hence no closed system is of use to anyone unless your in it.

All our man made systems are open to some degree.

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[tinman]

Well even though Mark seem's to have vacated the premises,we will press on.

This is the first system(a proof of concept) to show how the hydroxy gas can be made to do useful work without any energy input needed-->energy is conserved within the system.

In the diagram below,you can see that we are storing the gas produced by the electrolisis system in a storage tank. Once the pressure reaches say 100psi within that tank,we have transformed some of the energy delivered by the battery into heat,and the rest of the energy delivered by the battery is stored within the hydroxy gas-->energy has been concerved at this point. Once the tank reaches 100psi,valve A opens,and the piston in the pneumatic ram is forced to the opposite end of the ram.This is where we can gain useful work at NO cost to the system,as the energy is still stored within the gas. When the piston in the pneumatic ram reaches it's travel limit,valve A closes,and valve B open's. The spring within the ram pushes the piston back up,and the hydroxy gas within that pneumatic ram is sent to the hydroxy heater(a gas heater converted to run on hydroxy). The energy within the hydroxy gas is converted into heat energy,and once again,energy has been conserved. After one full cycle,the heat energy out is equal to the electrical energy supplied by the battery,and no energy was consumed to gain useful work from the pneumatic cylinder.

This is one (small scale) example of how hydroxy gas can be used to gain energy within a closed system-->the total energy out is greater than that of which was supplied to the system.

Hydroxy(HHO) gas is used as it stores energy within it that can be reclaimed after the gas under pressure has done useful work.