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Are scalar waves BS?

Started by dz93, January 26, 2015, 10:58:15 AM

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DROBNJAK

Scalar fields do exist in coils of wire that are running AC. They are called Electro Motive Force or EMF for short. EMF is scalar field and it is a direct consequence of the Faraday's Law. Unfortunately, it falls of very quickly with distance. If I remember correctly it falls with a factor 1/d ( d = distance ).

Now, weather varying these EMF scalar fields will produce scalar waves, I can't tell. It sounds logical, but it might be different.

TinselKoala

There are _zero_ confirmed instances of faster-than-light communication of information using electromagnetism, light or any other system. The experiment by Oldscientist is flawed due to incorrect assumptions about what a Faraday cage can do and how good ones are actually constructed (double-walled, fully isolated, or perhaps solidly grounded, sometimes even biased with external or internal power to the walls).

But if you want to experiment you can make a "scalar wave transmitter" using a Caduceus coil antenna:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MA8rzZSqk
(Be sure to read the "Description" for details)

The schematic and construction details can be found on Jean-Louis Naudin's website archive.

MarkE

Quote from: dz93 on January 26, 2015, 04:46:36 PM
Maybe if I mention my intentions then I could get more help on this subject. I'd like to, some day, build a device that would allow for wireless communication ivwe a long distance without harmful EM waves.

Why do I say harmful? I have read a lot about EMF being harmful to biological life. I know not all EMF's are harmful but apparently the ones broadcasted in the microwave frequency are claimed to be harmful. Now I don't know how much truth there is to that but if it is then we do need to find a way around that eventually. This was one leading motivator in figuring out if scalar waves even exist. If they don't then we'd have to figure out a safer way to transmit EMF.

Now this is all based on the assumption that EMF in the microwave range are harmful. Could I get anyone's take one this?

I know I've asked a lot of questions in the last post and this one but I'd greatly appreciate it if you could help me find answers to these questions. I'd hate to be misled because some website has a more convincing argument about something than another. Its hard to find the truth on the internet and my college isn't teaching me what I want nor need to learn. They just teach you what they assume the average Joe needs to know. I'm not the average Joe nor do I want to be. I'd like to be something more which is why I'm dedicated to learning as much as I can and hopefully most of what I learn will be the truth.
If you don't need a lot of bandwidth then you can broadcast using a low frequency carrier.  The lower the frequency the carrier, the larger the extents of the near field.  Most radio transmission theory is taught concentrating on the far field. 

Void

Quote from: dz93 on January 26, 2015, 02:52:37 PM
Thank you for your reply. I have watched theoldscientist's videos and I've already saw the one you listed. My issue is how do I build one? Are there any documentation or info out there on building one? Or something that could lead me in the right direction. I don't need a step by step how to guide or anything but just better information than what's available.

Hi dz93. TheOldScientist didn't provide a whole lot of info in his video of how exactly he was
transmitting the signal. It appears he was using some sort of tesla coil or maybe another coil arrangement to transmit into,
but he doesn't seem to have provided specific details on what he had his function generator connected to in his video, but he also
said he was using FM modulation of a square wave, I believe. It gives you some idea of what he was doing however.

You haven't indicated whether you have any experience of using electronics test equipment, and if you have
any electronics circuit building experience, but you should have some ideas from this video to try some of your own
experiments if you do have some electronics experience.  It may have been the near field magnetic component that was penetrating
the two cookie tins to the radio receiver in his test. I think a better test would have been to compare the difference between
TheOldScientist's setup shown in his video, to transmitting a sine wave carrier at the exact same frequency, possibly using AM modulation,
for example, or just using CW if the receiver has a BFO, over a straight wire, to show if there really is a difference in penetrating the
cookie tins between the two different setups. It does seem that TheOldScientist's test may have been based closely
on Naudin's experiment:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/sclxmtr.htm

By the way, there is likely not very much more info around anywhere about experimenting with supposed scalar waves
beyond what you have already found. Meyl published a big thick book on his theories about scalar waves, but I think
it is very heavy into mathematical analysis. If you are good at heavy math, you might get something from that book. ;)
Other than that, you may just have to try to devise your own experiments based on what little info/ideas are available out there.
There may be a few other books out there that get into scalar wave theories, but I don't know of any off hand that
are necessarily good. "Scalar Potentials Fields and Waves" by Thomas Valone might be of some use if you can find a copy,
but I haven't read it, so I don't know if it is any good. 

All the best...


dz93

I have some experience in electronics but am quickly learning. I learn best when I can actually experiment with things rather than read about them and with not much money to spend its hard to experiment with much.

Im attending college where I'll be learning electrical and mechanical engineering but I'm not far in college yet. Once I get into all the more in depth classes I'll be able to do this stuff more fluidly without have to rely on more details but I'm very impatient and eager to learn about new things. Which is exactly why I came here to ask a few questions so I could get an idea of what I'm getting into. Not to mention it wouldn't be too hard to replicate what theoldscientist did but I'm mainly concerned about if things are being done right. I just wanted to see how accurate all the hype about scalar waves are. Its still a very interesting concept and in time I hope meyl will stumble upon something very useful.

Thanks again for answering my questions.