-----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.

[ramset]

Bill
I'm not just speaking of this silly vid,it's everything.....everything that comes here
Whether it's TPU. LENR whatever
All garbage (to supreme being Mark E
Steven Mark is a fraud ?,the guy never tried to sell anything to anybody
Here or any forum...
Was pulled in by our government and threatened ,in person ..to his face..


Supreme being calls it a fraud ,it's like crying wolf everything gets the same treatment
Greet it with the baseball bat of fraud.


And most recently BRADS water as fuel claim (I AM NOT REFERING .TO GDS)...water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen
To state that under no conditions can this contribute to work or combustion is absurd...
I really do think he,s just fishing for work/investors when he states things to provoke.
Also

There are many guys that secretly investigate claims and never share with the community
I wonder why that is???
Businessmen looking to make a buck ,could care less about open source.
I suppose a lot of these video guys are after investors so it's a dog eat dog scenario .


I will not be responding here got better things to do.


Chet

[memoryman]

Mark E is, to the best of my personal knowledge, NOT a paid government shill; he and I have differences of opinion as to what is maybe possible; I have no issue with that. Mark dislikes the many frauds that show up with their youtube video 'proof'; he is straight forward and rarely wrong. I respect him.
I don't lie or embellish and am NOT paid by anyone but my own company. Believe it or not.
If you want to have private conversations, I am open to that.

[MarkE]

Mark E
An analysis of a you tube video is a long way from a formal investigation (which would require participation from
The inventor)

You have failed to establish any deficiencies in the analysis offered.  You have failed to challenge either the observations or the conclusions offered as a result.  IOW, you are shooting blanks amidst a bunch of unsupported assertions that you make.

So you are left with an opinion ,that is all ,  you can have no true claim of fraud with out proper evidence.
Any judge would laugh you out of the court room.

Hmm, well let us suppose that we were trying a case for slander.  Be my guest and offer your best evidence and argument.  This ought to be fun.

Unless you are a fascist and do not require do process of law.

What specific laws are you referring to there Chet?

End of story.
regarding your boldface lies  in which you say I endorse unproven technologies...
Well that is just a lie and you know it.

On the contrary I have shown that despite irrefutable proof that the claims are false, you continue to argue that they may be true.  Therefore you are arguing in favor of the claims.  You tell yourself the lie that such behavior is not what it is.

I support proper investigation with the cooperation of the inventor and would never call a man a thief or fraud with out evidence,nor would I endorse something which was unproven.

You support frauds long after their false claims have been disproven.  Wasif Kaloon, and Greg Potter are both cases in point.

I would state an opinion and note it as such.
You just never know what may or may not be true .

It is a logical fallacy to equate the probabilities of multiple possible outcomes.  It is possible that Jesus will appear and sup with Sterling Allan as he is convinced his alphabetic nonsense fortells.  The probability of that happening is similar to the probability that the water that Greg Potter admits cannot supply energy fuels his "water powered generator" or the motor that Wasif Kaloon has demonstrated is a load driven by his "generator" is a free energy producing all magnet motor.  You are free to act as foolishly as you like: overtly ignoring the direct and conclusive evidence before you because you arbitrarily declare you need the "cooperation of the inventor".

I keep an open mind and hope for the best.

Well there is that old adage about keeping such an open mind that one's brains fall out.   You actually demonstrated a closed view, as you reject the conclusive evidence against these clowns without making any attempt to refute it.  You might as well stick your fingers in your ears and repeat:  "Nah, nah, nah".

I have no idea why Fatbird keeps posting these old vids as new,  however it has served some useful
Purpose ,I did not know Mark E was a hired gun for free energy investors and I. Suppose
That could be a reason Stefan's forum views have dropped by 2/3 in the last year ,and perhaps
It hinders many from sharing their open source work here knowing an agent for investors watches 24/7

LOL, there you go making silly assertions again.

I have seen this 1st hand and can completely appreciate how this can stifle open source .

Please do tell more.

Mark E your willingness to spread untruths as well as twist words towards your own agenda
Speak volumes about your character .

Do you think if you keep repeating those accusations often enough that they will take?  It would seem that what you are perfectly happy to cast unfounded accusations at people like me who point out fraud, but when it comes to actual frauds, you go out of your way to avoid evidence that exposes them.  Why do you do such things Chet?  You must realize that the more frauds burn people the less likely people will be to give others with speculative ideas a chance.  IOW, you should know well that in the end you are a discouraging force.

Every single news article or claim to come across these pages whether from a prestigious university or NASA or whomever you Poop on it...every last one.

That is a false claim.  I need only point to one thing that I have found encouraging to refute you.  Would you like to recant now, or shall I dish your lie back to you?

I don't care how good you are at your job ,your lack of integrity makes that moot .

There's those free swinging accusations again from a guy who claims he wants to be honest and fair.

I think one of the biggest reasons you push so hard is you hope some one pushes back with the golden goose....and I completely believe you would run right out the door with it..

LOL, you have quite the imagination there Chet.  This is an open-source forum.  Anything that I see, thousands of others see.  Any of them are free to pick-up an inventor or idea that they think is valuable.  How does your idea account for that?  How does it account that if I was doing as you speculate that I would not be beat to the punch by someone else?

Fair thee well

I certainly intend to do so.