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Overunity motor, part3, all 4 recharging bats reading at 1.400 volts now.

Started by stevensrd1, March 17, 2015, 08:44:46 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 21, 2015, 10:46:59 PM
Also, I feel its important to note at this point in the discussion::::


Make sure your coils are NOT reverse biased,.. meaning the magnetic field should be induced in the same direction.
The JT " will work" either way, but if they are in opposite directions, you are fighting the induction, and increase your losses.
this will also disrupt any inductor resonance.
This is clearly not true for the normal basic JT. There are four possible ways to connect the two coupled coils in a normal JT; two will work and two will not work. We've all gotten used to flipping the connections to one coil if our JT doesn't work the first time around. It will _not_ work "either way". Have you not built a basic JT circuit for yourself?

The TMLMJT circuit does not depend on the relative phasing of the inductors so it should not matter which way they are connected, since it does not depend on coupling of the two inductors and they are acting "in isolation" as it were.

However I've been playing around with a magnet near the inductors of my test unit with some interesting results.

TinselKoala

Quote from: MarkE on March 22, 2015, 02:11:10 AM
Tinman this is the comparative result with and without a base resistor with no load.  The flyback voltage increases about 15%.
On mine, I get a doubling of voltage at the Collector with no LED load, from 6 volts peak with LED to 12 volts peak without the LED. This is with about 1.5 volts at both supply sources. I still have the 220R resistor in place. With the resistor shorted I see very little change.

tinman

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 22, 2015, 03:28:52 AM
The circuit clearly has more than one mode of operation. Your traces don't look like MarkE's or mine, and also look at the large difference in frequency. The "double peaks" of your traces are happening at more ordinary JT frequencies of 30 or 15 kHz (depending on whether you count the double peaks as two cycles, or one.) While the last traces MarkE has shown are at 200-250 kHz and mine is running at over 500 kHz.

I don't yet have a pair of coils comparable to yours but I'll probably find, or wind, some a bit later on.
Maybe because i am useing air core inductors,and my run battery voltage is only .8 volt's-->i just grabed two old batteries from some old solar garden lights.

I am interested in what you have found with the PM near the coil's :)

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on March 22, 2015, 02:11:10 AM
Tinman this is the comparative result with and without a base resistor with no load.  The flyback voltage increases about 15%.

Mark
Do you have a darlington transistor you could try-i have none ATM. Just interested in what may happen?.

Pirate88179

Quote from: tinman on March 22, 2015, 04:15:02 AM
Maybe because i am useing air core inductors,and my run battery voltage is only .8 volt's-->i just grabed two old batteries from some old solar garden lights.

I am interested in what you have found with the PM near the coil's :)

On a normal JT a mag near the inductor raises the freq.  I used this trick a few times when the circuit emitted a high pitch squeal.  Place a neo on the inductor and the freq is raised high enough so you can't hear it.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
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