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Overunity Machines Forum



Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.

Started by ramset, April 26, 2015, 09:52:03 AM

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hartiberlin

They probably have a hidden cable again inside their Tube holder rods which are fixed to the hall walls. There they probably input the power going up to the generator sitting ontop which will again idle only with no real load and as it is about 4.5 Meters up you can not see it very well from the ground, so nobody will again see the shaking chains, that a Lenz law generator can not have at 5 KWatts load...!

( This was also the case at the Belgrade demo unit)

The only way, they could have pulled it off, if they would have a Lenz law violating generator, which would have no backdrag , but then they would not need these buoyancy floats and could just couple a good motor to this special generator and then they would just have a QMOGEN...no need for all this water floats bullshit...

The maximum theoretical possible power coming out of such a device would be around
160 Watts mechanically from the buoyancy of these floats, but not 5 KWatts ! Also it would then need more than 160 Watts for the compressor...but they claim only 100 Watts input into the compressor...very strange...
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Well have a look at this diagramm:

http://www.overunity.de/1797/rosch-auftriebskraftwerk-gaia-auftriebs-kraftwerk-wie-es-funktioniert/dlattach/attach/14769/

There is definately less output than input calculated by normal physics.

Here is an Excel Spreadsheet to calculate it all:
http://gaia.ws1.eu/files/berechnung-auftrieb.xls

Here is the calculation of engineer Brugmueller:
http://gaia.ws1.eu/files/Wirkungsgrad_eines_Auftriebskraftwerks_pb.pdf

Hope this helps.

There is now a first witness report who also posted these 6 pictures and he said, that Rosch-Gaia said:
"Believe in it and buy it or get lost..."

This seems to be their attitude right now...

No technical measurements allowed in this moment... maybe only at the last
day at the 6th of May and then only on certain measurement points they provide...

They even did not publish a complete picture of their system !
Sounds all very fishy...

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

TinselKoala

Quote from: MarkE on April 26, 2015, 03:58:01 PM
Surely you jest.  The premise is that a wet bag of hammers magically produce free energy.  Interviews with wet hammers of distinction reveal that the hammers resent being drawn into such a scam.

There are plenty of detailed analyses on overunity.de.  In five words or less: "Gravity is a conservative field."

And, of course.... "Buoyancy is nothing but gravity misspelled."

Wait... that's six words.

:P

Pirate88179

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 26, 2015, 05:04:21 PM
And, of course.... "Buoyancy is nothing but gravity misspelled."

Wait... that's six words.

:P

Buoyancy: Nothing but gravity misspelled.

There, 5 words.

Seems like Stefan has given us even more meat to go along with those potatoes.

Thanks Stefan.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

hartiberlin

Hi Bill and All,
yes, I am watching this Gaia-Rosch buoyancy thing already for about half a year now.

Last year in October 2014 I was in Bregenz, Austria for this conference from Netjournal
(Adolf Schneider) to have a closer look at the 2 Meter Modell, which was powered
by batteries and never ran longer than 2 hours...(probably until the batteries needed to be recharged...)

Here you can still see my videos I took at this conference:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=overunitydotcom+Auftriebskraftwerk+GAIA+-+ROSCH


Well, we the overunity.de measurement team (  a few users from the overunity.de forum)
wanted to measure that 2 Meter modell and Rosch invited us also to do this, but they never gave us any
real date to do it and then always had an excuse to shift the dates...

so the measurements never took place although we already did a lot of preparation for it...

Anyway, we decided to wait for the 5 Meter Modell, which would only be a few days away they told
us in October, but then things got delayed and delayed, Rosch bought their new location
at Spich first and then needed to renovate it.
Then Gaia did not raise enough money for
paying Rosch and so the time went on and on....
Okay, then a mysterious TUEV Report surfaced, which was done for the 2 Meter
modell, but was never published, but only it came out up until now, that it was done
by an Italian friend of Mr. Gaedke, having worked with him at an Italian outlet
of the TUEV Saarland or so...
The TUEV Report was never published until now, but Gaia members say, it contained
only gibberish language and unreadable diagramms and strange measurements, not
showing what was really measured... so it probably was just written by somebody
who could just stamp his TUEV stamp onto it and that was it...
Rosch just wanted to have any TUEV report, also if it was bullshit, so they could claim
it was TUEV approved...

Anyway, the GAIA team ( about 20 people) travelled only to see this TUEV report from
Austria to Spich ( near Cologne in Germany) and they only saw this
paper and nothing else... then they raised the rest of the required money again
from their member fees and ordered the 500 units at Rosch of the 5 KWatts modell.

Then Rosch got these tubes delivered from a metal factory, probably the company Haslach,
which also tried to build such a KPP with 8 Meters height, but never got it to work and
resigned to do any further work with it...anyway, now Rosch in Spich got the parts at the middle of March and needed
until now to put it all together with a generator bought from China and  a mebrane air compressor pump,
probably again the ALITA AL-120  or AL-200 or AL-300 or so..
See:
http://www.alita.com/airpump/pi_100u_en.php
or
http://www.alita.com/airpump/pi_250u_en.php

And now they claim 4.8 KWatts of output, although such a device can mechanically only
deliver around maximum 150 to 200 Watts with about 100 Liters/minute air driven into the floats
at this height...

It is really all very fishy and the only question I still have is, was Gaia really scammed by Rosch or
is Gaia fully involved in this possible scam ?

Well, we will see...but it does not look good so far...

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum